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From: "Richard Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Treatment Of Prisoners (was RE: Tragedy in Israel)


> I have also not seen any indication that the prisoners are being
> tortured or treated in a manner which violates any sort of international
> law.  What is confusing to me is the Secretary of Defense's
> wordsmithing.  If we are at war, then aren't the people we're fighting
> technically at war with us as well?
>

They are.  In the common sense of the words, the AQ prisoners are prisoners
of war, since they were captured in war.  But, if you look at the Geneva
convention, which Jerone conveniently provided a link to you will find the
provision:


Article 4

A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons
belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power
of the enemy:

1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members
of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces.

2. Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including
those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the
conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this
territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps,
including such organized resistance movements, fulfil the following
conditions:

(a) That of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;

(b) That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance;

(c) That of carrying arms openly;

(d) That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and
customs of war.

3. Members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or
an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power.

4. Persons who accompany the armed forces without actually being members
thereof, such as civilian members of military aircraft crews, war
correspondents, supply contractors, members of labour units or of services
responsible for the welfare of the armed forces, provided that they have
received authorization from the armed forces which they accompany, who shall
provide them for that purpose with an identity card similar to the annexed
model.

5. Members of crews, including masters, pilots and apprentices, of the
merchant marine and the crews of civil aircraft of the Parties to the
conflict, who do not benefit by more favourable treatment under any other
provisions of international law.

6. Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy
spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had
time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms
openly and respect the laws and customs of war.


#2 is of particular interest.  The attack on the WTC violated several of the
provisions under 2.  Thus, for the sake of the Geneva Convention, they are
not legally prisoners of war, even though we are fighting a war.  That is
the legal sense that the S of D uses.


Dan M.

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