At 11:46 12-1-02 -0500, John Giorgis wrote:

>JDG - Who thinks that if the US treatment of these prisoners is violating
>human rights, then we should hold a party - because clearly all the serious
>human rights abuses in the world have been solved.

Very bad taste, John. Your statement suggests you believe human rights 
abuses come in two categories: serious ones, and ones that are not 
serious.   :-(


Jeroen

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