At 02:01 PM 1/24/02 +0100 Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO wrote:
>No, but you *can* find The Netherlands on a map. The Netherlands *is* listed
>in the CIA World Factbook. Other countries *have* diplomatic and economical
>relations with The Netherlands. The Netherlands *is* listed as a UN Member
>State. All this not so for "Palestine".
This is false.
The other members of the League of Arab States have diplomatic and economic
relations with Palestine..
Additionally, there is also this:
Permanent Observer Mission of Palestine to the United Nations
115 East 65th Street, New York, N.Y. 10021
Telephone: (212) (212) 288-8500, Telefax: (212) 517-2377
So, while Palestine is not a UN Member State, it does have a Permanent
Observer Mission.
At any rate, this is irrelevant. You and I both agree that an entity known
as "Palestine" exists, and frankly I don't care whether it is a country or
not for purposes of this discussion. You are obfuscating the issue to
avoid answering the real questions.
THE REAL QUESTION (AGAIN)
Jeroen, do you believe that the entity known as "Palestine"* is exhibiting
"good will" towards Israel?
* - Or, if you will, "the Palestinian Authority", the West Bank and Gaza,
whatever.....
>> The League of Arab States recognizes Palestine as an "occupied
>> country."
>
>They do, but the rest of the world does not. I can claim that the Dutch
>province of Noord-Brabant is not really a Dutch province but a sovereign
>country that is occupied by The Netherlands. I might even be able to find
>people who would agree with that. It would not mean, however, that the
>sovereign country of Noord-Brabant really exists.
Of course, the rest of the world doesn't admit that Taiwan is a country
either, but that doesn't make it any less true....
>> No knowledgeable person believes that Egypt/Lebanon/Syria/Jordan would
>> defeat Israel in a combined assault. Israel simply has much better
>> technology.
>
>So, all this complaining about "indefensible borders" is nonsense, then. No
>matter what the borders are, Israel will be able to win such a war. IOW,
>even the 1948 borders are defensible borders.
>
>Your agreement with me is greatly appreciated. :-)
For a science fiction reader, you aren't thinking much about the future.
JDG
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