> Jeroen got us off to a good start ... (some snippage for brevity)

>  To get things started, here is a first draft:
>  
>  Title: <Brin-L Constitution>
>  
>  2. All Members, including the Listowners, may call on an other Member if 
he 
>  or she is showing undesirable conduct.
>  3. These calls are to be made off-list. To keep a complete record of these 
>  calls, Members are requested to CC or BCC such a message to the Listowners.
>  4. If a Member continues his misbehaviour, other Members, including the 
>  Listowners, may call on the offending Member on-list.

While maybe this was not "official" this is pretty much what I have been 
aware happening in the past, except the CC/BCC part, but then again I know I 
have bounced stuff off of Julia and Eileen on more than one occasion in the 
past.  I bounce things off of them because I think they are hearing from 
others in a similar manner and they have helped me to formulate what seems 
like a tempered response to things I might not always feel tempered about. I 
think this trait is pretty important in any kind of ettiquette police (but in 
some ways has fallen on the list owners in the past).  


>  5. If a Member still continues his misbehaviour, he will be sanctioned by 
a 
>  Temporary Ban from the List, but not before the matter is discussed 
on-list 
>  and consensus has been reached.

LOL, this makes me think of adolescents... "please please beat me up, punish 
me, but don't "talk" to me.  It will take a tough cookie to get past all our 
possible "angles" on a good "talking to".  

>  6. This Temporary Ban will not exceed a period of four weeks.

The progressive suspension thing works for me

  
>  
>  A few notes:
>  1. It needs to be defined what constitutes "undesirable conduct" (point #2)
>  2. It needs to be defined what constitutes "misbehaviour" (points #4, #5, 
#8)

undesirable, misbehavior... hmmmm
My first gut reaction to this is things that scream "belligerently 
intolerant" when people have felt the need to ask us to take a "time out", 
etc.  I actually think that undesirable comes right before unacceptable on an 
imaginary continuum.  Having been on the receiving end of "you are sinking 
your teeth way to far into this" posts, I know several people that will 
gently  let most of us know when we need a break.  In many cases when we beat 
some electron horses to death, some wise being senses that we need to step 
away from the conversation for a bit, and suggests it.  If you feel like you 
are saying the same thing over and over (or louder), be sensitive to someone 
offering a "chill pill".  It might really be "ok" if this is not a concrete 
area, it doesn't hurt us to explore others perceptions of what might be 
crossing a line (or to appreciate it).  

Dee

  

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