----- Original Message -----
From: "Marvin Long, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: Dutchness Re: Addictions (Re: yada yada yada)


> On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Dan Minette wrote:
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marvin Long, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: Dutchness Re: Addictions (Re: yada yada yada)
> >
> > >
> > > Hey, if our lives are all preordained, then why aren't we all priests?
> > >
> >
> > Sigh, do I have to tell you everything.  If we are pre-ordained, then we
> > aren't priests yet.
>
>
> *Snort!*  I sense a Zeno-style paradox here:  if we're pre-ordained, then
> by definition we'll never achieve the fate ordained, thus we are free!
> Yay!  :-)
>

Nah,  a Zeno paradox isn't enough to get out of the problem. My hometown
Robert Zimmerman, not the famous neurologist from New York, summed it up in
Rainy Day Women #12 and #35.  In the refrain, he refers to the solution to
Zeno's paradox...the use of stones...which refers of course to the work by
Leibniz and Newton.  It also refers to, obliquely, the funeral rite of
placing the first bit of earth (stone) on a casket.  It is clear we are now
pre-ordained, but will assume priestly functions upon our death.  Thus, on
this earth, we are pre-ordained.

Now, a Russell paradox might have a chance.

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      |    The statement inside the box is |
      |    preordained to be false         |
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But, that's uncertain.  Also, the formation of my box appears to be
dependant on the email reader, so my apologizes if the box doesn't look like
a box.


Dan M. |

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