Somebody wrote: > >>> > I was having a discussion with some pretty intractable creationists the > >>> > other day, and one of them was making the particularly specious > >>> > argument that evolution is bad science because it is not based on > >>> > observed experiments. That is, no one has ever actually observed the > >>> > creation of a new species over successive generations. > >>> > >>>And exactly how many people have observed the actual creation of the world, > >>>the universe and everything in it? > >> </quote>
Ronn Blankenship wrote: > >>All of us. Jeroen wrote: > >Nonsense. Man was (Ronn:) > _physically_ (Jeroen:) > >created after everything else (assuming you are a > >supporter of Creationism) (Ronn:) > Well, you know what happens when you ass�u�me . . . > > ;-) So then you're saying that according to Creationism, God doesn't create people's souls? Where does he get them then?, and why aren't we worshipping that instead? And if he DOES create souls, it does not mention that he did/does so long before there's any physical body to inhabit. So again you're stuck with not witnessing the creation event. Besides, the whole line of reasoning has been hashed over and over again because you don't need *human* consiousness to collapse a wave function in this model. God is supposed to be all-seeing and all-knowing, so he would be collapsing any and every quantum wave function just by existing... ;-) (Jeroen:) > >so it is impossible for anyone to have observed the actual > >creation -- man was not around yet. Impossible for any *person* to witness. -- Matt Not that I believe the Creationists theories. There's plenty of room for spirituality without having to believe that every word of the Bible is literally true. And as for the theory that the dawn of consciousness crystallized the formless void borrowed from the vacuum, filling in all of the details retroactively at the speed of light, wouldn't that mean that experiments in astronomy, geology, etc. would have to behave much differently than they do in order to accomodate that?
