----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Grimaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Evolution Question
> > Besides, the whole line of reasoning has been hashed over > and over again because you don't need *human* consiousness > to collapse a wave function in this model. God is supposed > to be all-seeing and all-knowing, so he would be collapsing > any and every quantum wave function just by existing... ;-) No, because the Universe is a human creation. God's view of reality is not so limited as the universe. Dan M. > And as for the theory that the dawn of consciousness crystallized > the formless void borrowed from the vacuum, Actually, that's not the understanding of Copenhaugen or more recent folks (such as Wigner or Wheeler). Remember, since Copenhaugen is an interpretation, not a theory, there can be no change in the actual predictive value of QM as a result of the theory. One of the problems of QM is that there is no QM theory of QM measurements. Now, there are some interesting toy models (a technical term) but things have not progressed beyond that. So, it is quite reasonable to envision everything in superpositions until consciousness forces them into an eigenstate. There are no contradictions with the theory of QM in that assumption. This, BTW, is pure metaphysics. Remember my repeated statement that science is not about reality? Well, the interpretations are. :-) Dan M. filling in all of the > details retroactively at the speed of light, wouldn't that > mean that experiments in astronomy, geology, etc. would have to > behave much differently than they do in order to accomodate that? That's not
