At 10:13 03-05-2002 -0500, Marvin Long wrote:

>I don't think you're "out of line" -- the question is perfectly sensible,
>and an obvious one to ask.  Answering it, however, would require
>discussing an individual in a way that probably shouldn't happen in
>public without that individual's permission.

Permission granted for discussion on *this* list (as it is relevant to this 
list), and only if you (plural) can manage to write without turning it into 
a personal attack. Might not be easy, will definitely require some extra 
effort, requires some restraint, but should be doable.


>Dan's proposal of a Yahoo-group devoted to this question alone is a good
>one.  Basically it's a proposal to create a space for mediation.  But
>mediation is a step that all participants must agree to and embrace in
>advance; it can't be pushed on someone.  And mediation requires a mediator,
>someone all participants agree may moderate the discussion and whom all
>participants trust to be impartial.  I think Dan and I would both probably
>fail on this count, Julia, but you or Eileen or some other less combative
>Brineller might qualify.

I believe the two ladies would not qualify. Not that I question their 
ability to do this, but since they are my fellow listowners, people might 
consider them to be less-than-impartial.


Jeroen

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