----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 1:19 PM Subject: Re: ~Sharon, Tandu Indeed
> On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:10:13PM -0600, Michael Harney wrote: > > ....A number of rationalizations deleted.... > > > But if he is going to continue this behavior, I think he should be > > removed from the list. > > I don't. I find your writing on this matter much more offensive. But I > don't think you should be removed from the list. In other words, you are unwilling to discuss the case on its legal merits, and would rather turn me into some sort of strawman for censorship. Look, in a perfect world, censorship laws would not be needed, because sexuality would be discussed maturely and only where apropriate. This is far from a perfect world however, and *ANY* forum where underage people are allowed is not the place for sexually explicit materials. Should we add a parental advisory for subscribers to this list stating that vulgar language and graphic sexual descriptions are sometimes posted to this list? Would you think the average person would even join a list that had such an advisory? Should we remove anyone from the list if we find out they are from a region where such material is against the law? Should we require that all members be over 17 years of age? You say that freedom of expression is above all else, but in saying so, you exclude people who can make valid contributions to the list. Contributions with value. I say that we exclude one person who's contributions have questionable value *if* he refuses to curb the vulgar/sexually explicit discussion. Step off your high-horse and look at the bigger picture. I ask we exclude 1 person, only if he is unreasonable. You ask that we exclude anyone who lives in a region where it is against the law and anyone under 17 years old. My solution may be "evil" in your book, but it is the lesser of 2 evils. If Mark wants to join a porn list where such discussion is appropriate, I think he should, and would not think that such a list should be censored, as sexually explicit material is expected there, and underage people *should* be excluded from such a list. I am not saying he should refrain from post that material anywhere, I *am* saying he should refrain from posting it *here*. Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] We do not inherit the Earth from our parents; we borrow it from our children. - Native American Phylosophy
