> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Erik Reuter
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> Actually, I was getting bored with it and I was probably about to let
> it drop when several other people entered the discussion, most of them
> saying that the right not to be upset outweights the right to post
> freely. That's about the surest way to get me into a debate.
"The right not to be upset?" I smell a straw man.
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> I can't credibly give a "direct order" like a listowner can, so I didn't
> reflect the last part of #3 back, but I reflected the first part back
> to Jeroen because it seemed to me that Mark was being unfairly insulted
> and ordered around, and I was hoping my post would distract Jeroen
> from beating on Mark (I didn't really expect to change his mind, just
> distract him a while.
So, while Jeroen thinks it is his job to beat sense into you, you think it
is your job to distract him from mistreating Mark. You're both taking a lot
of responsibility for the other's behavior, which rather clearly isn't
working well for anyone around here, in my opinion.
Neither of you is the other one's mommy or daddy, I'll remind you, at the
risk of stating the obvious. We'll all be happier if you'll quit making
demands on each other. If you have criticism, offer it and let it go.
David Brin is a big believer in the power of criticism, but he's not much
for *demanding* that others change. Transparency and accountability have to
do with responsibility and community, not blame and behavior modification.
Nick
