> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Marvin Long, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: Geen
> Aan: BRIN-L Mailing list
> Onderwerp: Re: Mmm, mesquite smoky goodness (was Re: (~) Please.)
> I don't like Jeroen very much. His manners and tone have for years
> suggested to me that he sees others not as people but as cogs in the
> Brin-L machine. If they adhere to his concept of the guidelines and if
> they don't disagree too vehemently with his opinions, then the cogs are
> functioning properly. If someone objects to his beliefs or strays from
> his concept of the rules, then the cog is broken and must be beaten
> back into shape by whatever means necessary. When personal
> difficulties arise with another listmember the tactics of conciliation,
> self-explanation, self-examination, and other-examination are all but
> unknown from him. He's interested in whether he can win a cog over or
> whether he can defeat an errant cog, but he's not interested in knowing
> the cogs well enough to see them as people whome the rules (such as
> they are) are meant to serve and not vice versa.
All this is a nothing but a load of bullshit. Everyone is welcome to
disagree with me -- I have no problem with that. It is only when people
start making unwarranted claims ("you have mental problems") or false
accusations ("you are an anti-Semite") that I go into defense mode.
> (Of course, he will disagree and say that he is defending his own
> rights
So, when someone attacks me, I should not defend myself against the attack?
I should just roll over and let myself get trampled on?
> and the common good, but the fact that he's incapable of seeing
> that way to victory is by shutting up proves my point.)
If someone launches a personal attack against someone on-list, and I tell
the offender he is out of line, how is that NOT doing something for the
common good? If it is not "for the common good", then what is it?
You see someone get molested in the street. You knock down the attacker and
restrain him till the police arrive. Are you then doing something for the
common good (public safety) or are you infringing on the attacker's personal
freedom? You seem to be in support of the latter.
Jeroen
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