At 16:05 15-07-2002 -0500, Marvin Long wrote: <snip nonsense>
>For instance: in this latest tiff between you, Erik, and Jeroen, there is >an interesting contrast. Even though you have childishly and tiresomely >baited him into a rage, you did so by paying attention to who he is and >how he thinks. You actually had to look at him as a person before you >could taunt him as a fool. In that there is a germ of respect. Lovely. After "blame the victim" and "defend the villain", now he is even getting *respect* for his misbehaviour. What next? Recommend him for the Congressional Medal of Honour? Talk the pope into declaring Erik a living saint? >(Of course, he will disagree and say that he is defending his own rights >and the common good, but the fact that he's incapable of seeing that the >way to victory is by shutting up proves my point.) A man gets mugged and ends up in hospital. Are you also going to tell him that his way to victory is by shutting up about it instead of by going to the police? A woman gets raped. Are you also going to tell her that her way to victory is by shutting up about it instead of by going to the police? >But his character is ill suited to a listowner position Of course, I *could* repeat that my role as a member is separated from my role as listowner, but I would probably be talking to deaf ears. So I will refrain from repeating that here. >I'm also very frustrated that Jeroen is so clueless about people, about >himself, I most certainly am not clueless about people (including myself). That is why I see Erik for what he really is, something that others apparently fail to see. Jeroen -- wondering why he still bothers to stay around
