----- Original Message -----
From: "Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:49 AM
Subject: RE: Mmm, mesquite smoky goodness (was Re: (~) Please.)


> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Dan Minette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 16 juli 2002 1:45
> > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Onderwerp: Re: Mmm, mesquite smoky goodness (was Re: (~) Please.)
>
> > > A man gets mugged and ends up in hospital. Are you also going to tell
> > > him that his way to victory is by shutting up about it instead of by
> > > going to the police?
> > >
> > > A woman gets raped. Are you also going to tell her that her way to
> > > victory is by shutting up about it instead of by going to the police?
> >
> > Goodness, Jeroen, you are the victim of a parody and trolling, not a
> > mugging or a rape.


> The principle remains the same: telling the victim that s/he is better
off
> by shutting up about the injustice done to him/her, rather than fighting
> that injustice.

Actually, it _was_ justice.  That's the whole point.  He did to you what
you did to others.  So, you are the "victim" of your own tactics.  Victim
is a word that represents a wide range of meanings in English.  You were
the victim of his parody in the same sense that I was just the victim of a
chess trap by my opponent.  Erik had you dead to rights with his parody.
He was guilty of acting like Jeroen.

There are many of us, due to our sense of manners, who refuse to treat you
the way you treat us.  Erik did what you do.  He _copied_ your post.
That's why a no one springs to your defense.  It was considered a bit
crude, but just.


> Dan, your own wife has been victim of some horrible things in her
childhood.
> When she first told you about it, did you tell her she should shut up
about
> it?

This is a wonderous example of how you post.  You equate real suffering due
to incest to your snit about someone giving you some of your own medicine.
The only possible logical explanation that I can come up with for this
attitude is a complete unwillingness/inability to think about others.  How
dare you trivialize real suffering by comparing your whining to a the
damage done to a little girl.

Have you no shame, sir?  Does anyone in the world beside Jeroen matter?

Dan M.

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