> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: Geen
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: Re: I'm probably going to regret jumping in
> >> Unfortunately, Jeroen, a lot of people blame *you* for not dropping
> >> the issue.
> >
> > And strangely, nobody blames Erik for making unwarranted claims and
> > for not sending that *one* message that could have ended all this a
> > week ago... :-(
> >
> I think you should take this as a compliment. If we ask _reason_ to one
> party, and ignore the other, it's because we think one side _can_
> change.
That is not how I see it. I see myself (the victim of Erik's attack) being
attacked for defending myself, and at the same time see Erik's misbehaviour
being approved of.
Erik attacked me, I defended myself, made an entirely reasonable request
("back your claims and answer my questions") and subsequently got told to
shut up. The offending party received little or no criticism for his gross
misbehaviour, and then I should see that as a *compliment*? Puh-lease.
> Face it: Erik won't drop this. Never. The only way to shup him up is
> using the listowners' power to ban him. Since there's no consensus
> among the listowners [nor among the listmembers] about banning him,
> then this option is out.
At the same time, there will probably be plenty of consensus about banning
*me*. My fellow listowners *are* considering that, you know.
> You don't want to drop this. Fine. This is your right.
Nice to see that at least someone still believes I have some rights left...
> So, the only way to shut this discussion up is for **you** to killfile
> him. Of course you can't do it, because you are a listowner, and
> [irony!] you must police his behaviour for violations of the List
> Etiquette.
Only in theory. As this list has shown beyond any reasonable doubt,
criticising Erik for his violations of List Etiquette is itself a heinous
crime these days. The punishment for this crime is massive attack and
(possibly and probably) banishment.
> Do you propose any *real* solution to this problem?
Other than letting him provide the proof and answers to a judge instead of
letting him provide the proof and answers to me?
> BTW, AFAIK it's not Erik alone who is poking fun on you about this
> discussion...
Oh no, there is no doubt in my mind that plenty of people are enjoying the
current round of Jeroen-bashing. :-(
Jeroen
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