At 10:47 16-07-2002 -0500, Marvin Long wrote:

> > I have posted some 2,000 messages to this list over the years. How many of
> > them indicate that I am a "medium-level [WPS]" and how many show no
> > indication of that? Apparently you have analysed all my posts so it should
> > be easy for you to answer that question.
>
>Oh... :-)!
>
>Of course it's merely a subjective judgement based on cumulative
>experience, but sometimes it's fruitful to make such judgements.  You
>should be worried less about proof and more about how many people might
>agree with me.

First you make a highly subjective judgement, and then you go on to say I 
should not worry about the proof. See, now *that* is something I find 
worrying. When someone makes that kind of claims, they do that because they 
know they will not be able to provide that proof when asked for it. So, I 
will ask you again: how many of my approx. 2,600 messages to this list 
indicate that I am a "medium level asshole"?

BTW, I do not recall any messages with the words "I agree" in reply to you 
calling me a "medium level asshole". So I do not think I really have to 
worry about how many people might agree with you -- it looks like there are 
very few people who do.


> > I will take it as hard evidence that personal attacks have now officially
> > become acceptable behaviour on this list, and as hard evidence that 
> speaking
> > up against those attacks is now officially considered a major crime on this
> > list.
>
>Nah, just if 1) the "attack" is against you, thus lending it an air of
>poetic justice, 2) the "attack" is the email equivalent of thumbing one's
>nose, and thus not very serious, and 3) you persist in demonstrating
>a comic lack of proportion and judgement by comparing Erik's teasing
>to rape, muggings, and child molestation and by spamming the list
>with petulant demands for "proof" that you and everyone else know is
>irrelevant because proving an assertion has never been the point of the
>exercise.

I do not consider proof irrelevant. Erik claimed I have mental problems and 
said he could prove it. So, I want him to prove it (or, if he cannot prove 
it, admit that everything he said were lies and apologise for it).


>Demonstrating that you have little humor and less judgement has
>been the point (from where I sit, anyway), a demonstration that has been
>well and wholly made.

Yeah, well, personal attacks do tend to limit my display of my sense of 
humour. Given that from where you are sitting you are getting the wrong 
impression about my sense of humour and my judgement skills, maybe you 
should go sit somewhere else.


Jeroen -- still demanding that Erik provide the proof and answers

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