At 21:21 24-10-2002 -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
That would mean that I am one of very few people on this list who have a *functioning* short-term memory...> The eventual accomplishment would be John Giorgis cleaning up his act > and starting to behave like a civilised adult.Whatever it was that John did (long forgotten by almost everyone by now)
Well, if Giorgis would actually behave like a decent, civilised person, there would be no reason for me to criticise his behaviour. But unfortunately...it certainly didnt call for the endless fits spits and pity parties the list is subjected to.......by you.
And you have not even seen all of it; you should read the bullshit I have received off-list from him over the years. Believe me, arrogant stuff like "What part of stripping "Brin" from subject headers didn't you understand?" is pretty much the least aggressive of his off-list posts. (That line was the subject header of an otherwise empty post, received a few days ago after I had forgotten to remove the word "Brin" from the subject header of one of my posts).
So, criticising someone for is misbehaviour is worse than the misbehaviour itself?Your childish and churlish behavior is far worse than anything you have accused John of.
I think my "bitching" (more correctly: my criticism) is quite reasonable. But as for my expectations, you are right: it is completely unrealistic to expect that Giorgis will ever improve his attitude, get down from his high horse and start behaving like an intelligent, mature and civilised person.After about 2 years of this you should have some clue as to how unreasonable your bitching is and how completely unrealistic your expectations are.
The frequence of my criticism happens to equal the frequency with which Giorgis shows his usual questionable behaviour. So, essentially, if you want things to improve you will have to get him to shape up.I am interested in hearing diverse opinions, even those that I find antagonistic to my worldview, so I can appreciate what you bring to political discussions. But when you go off on John with such zeal, with unasked for frequency,
What poor judgement? Have I been having the wrong impressions about Giorgis? He regularly shows arrogance, refuses to answer questions, refuses to back his claims, tends to launch personal attacks, etcetera. Should I have considered all that to be *acceptable*, perhaps even *desirable* behaviour, rather than considering it unwanted behaviour?and unfortunate poor judgement,
Jeroen "How long till Hell freezes over?" van Baardwijk
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