Jim said:
 
> Now, is that among true Banks fans? It certainly sounds like people
> without a predisposition to like Banks aren't so fond of it. Is there
> something about it that is that off-putting?

I think that lots of people think it's horrible because of certain
revelations during the course of the book, rather than because of plot,
characterisation, pacing and so forth. I think, more than any of the
others, it shows us the sorts of things on which the Culture is
founded, and the price of its utopia. Reading it for the first time is,
at times, like running off a cliff.

Rich, who is always impressed by Banks showing the bad aspects of a
creation he so obviously loves.

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