On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:35:29 -0800 Nick Arnett wrote:

[...snip...]

> Did you have anything to do with InfoMarket, cryptolopes, etc.?

Nope, never did get into the copyright, privacy, confidentiality, security
and authenticity issues as an item in itself, that's around 1996 if I'm not
mistaken and by that time I had already left IBM with my early retirement
package and was learning a new life in a wheelchair -- fell out of a tree
and broke my back (don't ask what I was doing in a tree :-)

> There's hardly a machine or acronym there that isn't familiar to me... but
I
> should note that I was 9 years old in 1965.

How'd you get to know all those numbers and acronyms?

>> We could not say that "Relational Databases" are better than
"Hierarchical
>> databases" -- IMS served it's purpose very well when "System R" was
>> still under development in California.

> How about "Record I/O," which was what DEC called databases in the early
> 70s?  Or were you forbidden to touch such devices as the PDP-8?

Working for "mother", one was kept pretty much in isolation and it wasn't so
much that you were forbidden as the attitude "there are no machines in the
universe except IBM" -- Jeroen (below) suggests I'm becoming a senior :-),
good time to expand that universe, eeh?

>> Object Oriented programming has now been overshadowed by other
>> paradigms and this only confirms that old adage "the only constant in the
>> universe is change".

> Aspect-oriented programming seems to be the latest...

I think you're talking about an addition to Smalltalk, Apostle, AspectJ?
Wasn't the Palo Alto Research Center (PARC) -- aka Xerox doing some
of the work?
I don't have any URL's handy but I guess a Google whould show some.

This may be of interest to Reggie who asks (below) what paradigms
I'm referring to and gets me into a bit of trouble :-)

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:41:29 +0100 J.v.Baardwijk wrote:

[...snip...]

> Hey, when did you learn Dutch? Okay, only two spelling errors --
forgivable
> for a non-native speaker.   :-)

Thanks, but what do you expect from a "kaaskop" that was born in Indonesia?

> Jeez, that's some pretty ancient hardware. Of course, if you actually
worked
> with that ancient stuff, then you must be... er... how to say this
> politely... er... a senior citizen by now.   :-)

<he, he> Nick was half my age in 1965, *now* the ratio is 7:8 so I'm not
quite
there yet :-)

> Customer Information Control System
> As the troops yelled in the movie _Renaissance Man_: "Too easy, sergeant!"
> :-)

I wonder how many people know that some banks still run their ATM's with
the CICS/COBOL combo in the mainframe today?

Are you from Groningen?, because my ancestors would have been neighbours
from Friesland.

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On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:32:36 -0600 Reggie Bautista gives me a well
deserved lecture about the list's netiquette:

> Usually on this list, if the post is going to be long we add L3, LLL, or
ELL
> to the subject heading.  L3 and LLL are "Lazh-Like Length" and ELL is
[...snip...]

> I'm curious; what new paradigms are you seeing?  I have a friend who just
> got his programming degree from DeVry, where they're still teaching object
> oriented programming like it was the second coming, and I'm sure he'd
> appreciate knowing what other approaches he should study.  And as a person
> just getting back into programming after a long absence, I'd certainly
like
> to know too.

Well, it seems you caught the looseness with which I used the word
"paradigm", after all the main paradigms are procedure-oriented programming
and object-oriented programming, right? I will hide behind Jeroen's
suggestion
that I'm becoming a senior citizen :-) ...but no seriously, although on the
horizon, AOP, as Nick suggests, does seem to be the "new" coming thing.
Also, the next decade will bring developments in microfabrication and
nanotechnology that will require new development and programming paradigms.

>>Cheers! (...please be gentle and don't flame me!)

> Don't worry.  There have been flames on this list, and occasionally
they've
> been brutal, but generally this is a pretty friendly place to be, most of
> the time.

> Oh, by the way, welcome to the list!

Thanks Reggie.

BTW, you might take a look at http://www.catseye.mb.ca/lala/paradigm/,
...and from the old _alma mater_ :
http://www.research.ibm.com/compsci/plansoft/brochure.html

Cheers!
--
Han Tacoma

~ Artificial Intelligence is better than none! ~


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