Nick Arnett wrote back on Tue Mar 4 07:12:55 PST 2003
> > > should note that I was 9 years old in 1965.
>.>
> > How'd you get to know all those numbers and acronyms?

> I think my life was programmed for computers.

<he, he> happens to some.

> When I was 10 or 11, I was part of a project by some Carnegie-Mellon
> graduate students doing a thesis on the question of whether or not kids
> could learn to program computers.  It's sort of strange to think that was
> once a mystery.

So the work done at MIT with LOGO -- Seymour Papert (Piaget), was
post your era?

BTW, I don't recall having seen any mention to LOGO during this
programming language thread, ...and it is a very deep language.

>From MIT Press:
Computer Science Logo Style 2/e - 3 vol. set
Brian Harvey
Volume 1: Symbolic Computing
Volume 2: Advanced Techniques
Volume 3: Beyond Programming
http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?sid=7C7028DA-FB05-47EB-87EA
-CFD7F42962BB&ttype=2&tid=3987
(cut and paste as necessary please, if the the line is broken)

> Afterwards, I continued to hang out at CMU's math
[...snip...]

Wow, I'm impressed!, must have been a hoot working with Tim Berners-Lee.
What great experiences!

I never made it through formal college/university. IBM picked me
up when I was 16 (finished high school at night) and all subsequent
training was by them or self.

> > > Aspect-oriented programming seems to be the latest...
> >
> > I think you're talking about an addition to Smalltalk, Apostle, AspectJ?
> > Wasn't the Palo Alto Research Center (PARC) -- aka Xerox doing some
> > of the work?
> > I don't have any URL's handy but I guess a Google whould show some.

> PARC seems to be the thought leader.  I bumped into it via AspectJ
> (http://www.eclipse.org/aspectj/), an IBM Java effort in that direction.
> I'm still absorbing the idea.  More at http://aosd.net/

I found my URL, to work done at the University of British Columbia,
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/labs/spl/projects/apostle/  for Apostle.

I'm currently getting back to some of MIT's Jay Forrester work in
System Dynamics. I am using VENSIM (http://www.vensim.com/new.html)
Donnela Meadows is somewhat of a hero to me, too bad she had to go.
Her book "The Limits to Growth", 1972 is when I started looking at this
and _discovered_ Systems Thinking :-)
Before she passed away, she had a column in "The Global Citizen"
http://iisd1.iisd.ca/pcdf/meadows/default.htm
...I think by now I'm going OT, but here's a shameless plug to
"The Miniature Earth" as well.
http://www.thesustainablevillage.com/miniature_earth/miniature_earth.htm

Cheers!
--
Han Tacoma

~ Artificial Intelligence is better than none! ~


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