----- Original Message -----
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)



> No, spoken like someone who knows that with most people in such a
> situation, their survival instinct kicks in and takes over.

But, Gautam provided plenty of counterexamples in other countries where the
Nazis attacked.  Examples where people's lives were saved

> So, in your opinion, all those Europeans who *didn't* hide Jews or helped
> them get out of Europe during WW2 were collaborating with the Nazis. Your
> insults just never end, do they?

No, just cowards. That's pretty well the definition, not willing to take
even a moderate risk to oneself to prevent great harm to another?


> So, why haven't you signed up for military service so you can actively
help
> liberate the Iraqi people from their current dictator? After all,
following
> your logic, your lack of real action makes you a collaborator with the
> Iraqi regime...

He's clearly willing to take a lot more risk than you are.  He is at risk
for this action.

> >JDG - Who knows that Gautam is very much willing to put his money,
err...
> >his life, where his mouth is when it comes to doing the right thing -
and
> >- supporting US foreign policy/national defence.
>
> Apparently not -- unless he signed up for military service in the front
> lines in Iraq, and didn't bother to tell us about it.

So, its only the infantry who qualifies in your book?  All the other people
who risk their lives merit your contempt.  Considering the fact that I just
talked to a mother of one of many soldiers who are going to be at risk this
afternoon, your posturing leaves an even worse taste in my mouth than
usual.

Look, I've been on record stating that the risks outweigh the potential
benefits in Iraq.  Not by much, but I thought they did.  But, at this
point, things have progressed to where the only thing that prevents the
risks for stopping outweighing the benefits from stopping is the, very
unlikely, capitulation by Hussein.

Dan M.


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