From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:33:17 -0600


----- Original Message ----- From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)


> At 15:34 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote:
>
> > > No, spoken like someone who knows that with most people in such a
> > > situation, their survival instinct kicks in and takes over.
> >
> >But, Gautam provided plenty of counterexamples in other countries where
> >the Nazis attacked. Examples where people's lives were saved
>
> Note that I said "most people", not "all people". Sure, there were people
> who risked their lives back then to help others, but as a percentage of
the
> total population, that was a relatively small group.
>
>
> > > So, in your opinion, all those Europeans who *didn't* hide Jews or
> > > helped them get out of Europe during WW2 were collaborating with the
> > > Nazis. Your insults just never end, do they?
> >
> >No, just cowards. That's pretty well the definition, not willing to take
> >even a moderate risk to oneself to prevent great harm to another?
>
> You call getting yourself and your family killed or sent to a
> concentration/death camp "a moderate risk"? Yikes...


How many non-Jews were sent to concentration camps for helping the Jews?
How many were put to death?  If I read Gautam right, many people did fight
the Holocaust with relatively minimal risk.

If that's what Gautam is saying, then I think I'll probably disagree. 6 million Jews and 12 million non-Jews died. I will hunt for online statistics on how many of those non-Jews were killed for helping Jews and let you know what I find.


Jon

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