--- "Marvin Long, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We'll see what happens in a couple of days, I guess.
>  Pondering the 
> vagaries of human psychology, it seems to me that a
> stunning and 
> spectacular victory might work as badly against us
> as somewhat prolonged 
> and messy one.  People fight an irresistable force
> by stabbing it in the 
> back.
> 
> Marvin Long

Well, yes, that's exactly what France just did. 
There's a rumor that Villepin described what France is
doing as "shooting America in the back."  I don't know
how true that is, but it's not a bad description.  In
Europe that might be the case.  I am not as worried
about Europe.  First, because we have so many
interests in common that if France's challenge to
American predominance is rapidly put down, the
long-term relationship is not so much at risk.  The
best way to do that, of course, is to go into Iraq,
find the weapons of mass destruction, and rub Chirac's
nose in them a bit.  And second because these are
fading societies.  With _every day_ that passes Europe
becomes less important on the world stage because of
the simple and inexorable math of demographics.  That
is not going to change.  But things in the Middle East
can still go well or poorly, and that is dependent on
the outcome of the war.

What, btw, do you _want_ Marvin?  If it goes well,
that's bad.  But if it goes poorly, that's bad.  If we
don't do this, Saddam eventually gets nuclear weapons.
 If we do do this, there's no outcome that seems
favorable.  What I haven't seen from you - from
anyone, but particularly from you, since I know you're
capable of it - is an argument balancing the risks of
action versus those of inaction.  Yes, the war can go
badly.  Look at the Middle East.  Do you feel that
peace is going _well_?  What, given the options, would
you do?

Gautam

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