On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 05:40:47PM -0700, Chad Cooper wrote:
> >From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:24:44PM -0700, Chad Cooper wrote:
> >
> >> I am right on the whole wattage thing(IMHO and I don't want to argue
> >> about it).
> >
> >If you mean how much electrical power is used in the US, you are
> >definitely wrong. And that is not my humble opinion, it is fact.
>
> OK, I will accept that I was wrong.
> http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/txt/ptb0802a.html
>
> Electricity Net Generation: Total (All Sectors), 1949-2001
>
> They list ~3700 Billion KW/H generated in 2001. I said 3500 GW. I neglected
> to put /hours on GW. I can see how this could stir up some nerd rage.
Wrong again! You did NOT say "3500 GW". You wrote:
> A human body generates 100 Watts of energy at rest. The United States
> today uses 3.5 Gigawatts. The robots would need 3.5 billion humans to
> match the same requirement the U.S. has on a daily basis. They must
> supplement with petroleum and nuclear reactors.
And wrong again: 3700 Billion kWH (i.e, kW x hours) not KW/H.
And wrong again: 3700 billion kilowatt*hours per year equals
3700e9*1e3/365.25/24 = 422 GWavg
> Is there disagreement here? I admitted to this as one of my fault
> - to the whole list. Is there some lesson you both have taught
> me today that you think I have not learned - that I have not yet
> grasped? Really! I want to know now, because I am taking this very
> personally. There had better be a good f'n lesson for me in all of
> this.
How about trying not stating things as scientific fact if you're not
quite certain of them? Or if you are just bullshitting, then you could
clearly label it as "made up science" or something like that.
> .... are you saying I am contributing to the lackadaisical decline
> of western scientific thought, because I bullshit on what the intent
> of the writers for plot the Matrix..?? and you are "just doing your
> part?"
As far as to popular scientific thought, yes.
> Eric, Dan,
Erik
> Regardless of what you may say next, I consider this grudge match
> over and concede you the winners. I honestly cannot compete, and look
> forward to an honest response.
I didn't know there was a competition. I just hate to see nonsense
passed off as science, and I will almost always correct it when I see
it, and point it out to try to reduce its future occurrence.
--
"Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/
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