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> Behalf Of Gary Nunn

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> He made a peace offering. Regardless of how he worded it, it is a peace
> offering none the less. He specifically said that he was not making
> threats, but merely having insight into what will happen if this thing
> continues. I agree with Jeroen, if this thing continues, it will
> escalate and get blown farther out of proportion than it already has.

I have to say that I'm a little confused at this point -- I don't know what
it would mean for "this thing" to continue, nor to I know what it would mean
to accept Jeroen's offer.

The latter would seem to require a pledge by all subscribers to refrain from
saying anything negative about Jeroen and to refrain from complaining about
his behavior to his ISP, hosting company etc.  I can't see why we'd do that
for any individual on or off the list.  We have a policy about personal
attacks, which most of us think is sufficient.

As far as "this thing" continuing, as far as I know, the list subscribers
let it go quite a while ago.  A number of other folks joined me in calling
for and sticking to a policy of dropping the whole subject.  Then one
comment by one person and we're getting sucked back into this vortex again.

If accepting Jeroen's offer means we drop the whole thing and tolerate each
other's existence in peace, then I'm all for it.  And so I'll suggest again
that the best thing for all of us is to move on.  But I have to add that if
there are one or two "violations" of this informal agreement, let's not hit
the panic button.  I tolerated quite a few annoying e-mails from Jeroen
before complaining to his ISP and that's what I'll do next time.  Anybody
can have a bad day, after all.  I would hope that he'll tolerate a few
gripes that people fail to withhold.  But if he starts making a habit of
harassing us or we are habitually bashing him, there's certainly a problem.

I don't want this list and the part of my life it represents to be mainly
about Jeroen van Baardwijk.  The best we all can do is try to live well
despite the difficulties of the past.

Nick

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