Um, on second thoughts.... seach the link.
--- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From: Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > On 23 Oct 2003 at 21:55, The Fool wrote:
> >
> > > > From: Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > On 23 Oct 2003 at 15:59, The Fool wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > From: Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 22 Oct 2003 at 21:13, The Fool wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The Fool wrote:.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >My understanding is that only outlook can open these
> > > > > > > > > >messages.
> > > > > > > Microsoft
> > > > > > > > > >has said it would also provide a small stand alone (DRM)
> > > > > > > > > >app to open messages for users of other software.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >The Whole point is that it disallows other software from
> > > > > > > > > >reading it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So what about screen capture utilities?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Microsoft has been making changes in the API's / DirectX to
> be
> > > > > > > able
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > give programs the ability to prevent this. The framework has
> > > been
> > > > > > > in place for quite some time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They can change all they like. As long as it is displayed on
> the
> > > > > > monitor the program I use can capture it. It ties into the
> > > > > > display drivers, not DirectX, for this very reason.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since When has windows NT/2000/XP allowed direct hardware access?
> > > > > Never.
> > > > > Display drivers do not access hardware directly.
> > > >
> > > > Uh? Um. Who said anything about hardware? I said drivers. They
> > > > directly acccess the driver API.
> > > >
> > > > And no, the program is probably NOT legal in the US thanks to some
> > > > of your recent laws. So if you're in the US, don't bother asking me
> > > > for it. The creator won't give.
> > >
> > > And it's those very same API's you just mentioned that will stop your
> > > driver from capturing video as part of a secure video pipeline (or
> > > whater they're calling it now). No direct hardware Access.
> Encrypted
> > > video channel. Eventually they plan to have the hardware makers
> > > encrypt the signal on the cable between the video card and the
> > > monitor. It'll work in the same way the 'secure audio channel'
> works.
> >
> > So you'll deny programs access rights to the driver? I GOTTA see
> > this. Games require that access to work.
>
> A program will be able to restrict access for other programs to access
> it's data.
>
> >
> > Get this through your skull. That is NOT direct hardware access.
> > Everything is filtered through the driver API these days.
> >
> > Also, I'd like to see a realiable report (mainstream news, thanks) of
> > that "encryption". Because there are a dozen technical objections I
> > can immediately think of...and it wouldn't stop how the program I use
> > works anyway.
>
> >From dozens of articles that were on the front pages of: C|Net, Wired,
> TheRegister.co.uk, Slashdot, bpdg.blogs.eff.org, among others, also white
> papers about microsofts DRM OS patents, white papers about TCP/TCPA (the
> trusted computing platform alliance), CPRM
> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/17009.html>, SDMI, HDCP (If your
> VCR is on the blacklist...no video for you.), and bunch of other
> 'standards' being pushed that I forgot the acronym for that BPDG
> /MPAA/RIAA/Microsoft/CPTWG/Etc. are pushing.
>
> Since you've been nasty, find it yourself. Don't come crying to me when
> your special driver stops working.
>
>
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