--- William T Goodall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 06:50  am, Jan Coffey wrote:
> 
> >
> > --- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> And it's those very same API's you just mentioned that will stop your
> >> driver from capturing video as part of a secure video pipeline (or 
> >> whater
> >> they're calling it now).  No direct hardware Access.  Encrypted video
> >> channel.  Eventually they plan to have the hardware makers encrypt the
> >> signal on the cable between the video card and the monitor.  It'll 
> >> work
> >> in the same way the 'secure audio channel' works.
> >>
> >
> > And in so doing they will finaly shove all creativity off their 
> > platform and
> > onto the Mac where you will have one choice for audio (Logic).
> 
> Or Cubase. Or Live, or Digital Performer, or Metro or any one of dozens 
> of other commercial, shareware and freeware apps...


Cubase is "SX" there is also "Nuendo" which is billed as more for movie
scorring.

Mark Of The Unicorn (popularly known as MOTU) is popular for Mac but it does
not run on PC. They sell more hardware these days than software rigs.

Pro Tools (owned by Avid) of course was the hands down market leader.

Cakewalk has Sonar which has been getting a lot of attention and is starting
to look like more of a competitor, but it is PC only.

The other big Mac choice was Logic from EMagic.

The big players were Pro Tools, Logic and SX.

Since Apple bought EMagic and the next day canceled all PC Logic support,
many...almost all, of the Logic users on PC switched to Cubase SX, or Cubase
Nuendo. (they were seriously facing a big waste of money on hardware etc, but
Cubase basicaly gave them the software and as much as they can, have provided
solutions for the hardware.

This buy-out was a big blow to Pro Tools which was clearly the market leader
on Mac. Subsequently, many of the Mac Pro Tools users switched to Pro Tools
on the PC, becouse all of their equipment would work, and you get both
platform installs when you buy the package.

The market has shiften to be more even. However, many of the DirectX fiascos
createing problems for Midi users. The music recording industry created a
buch of formats and standards, but Apple and Microsoft want to control these.
Apple by making the proprietary Logic methods the only ones that will lock
synk and Microsoft by blundering DirectX, which is more of a gameing platform
than a midi/recording platform.

The remaining independent players (Pro Tools and Qubase) will mostlikely be
looking at alternatives. 

After what Apple pulled with Logic, they are going to have a hard time
getting the mindshare back.

> > And one shoice
> > for Vid
> 
> iMovie is bundled free with every Mac, and is everything a beginner 
> needs. For semi-pro there is Final Cut Express. If you want to make a 
> Hollywood Movie there is Final Cut Pro or Avid Xpress Pro...
> 
> > (whatever other company Apple swallowed last year)...Don't do vid,
> > can't remember tha name.
> 
> Apple bought Final Cut (Key Grip) *from* Macromedia in 1998. The 
> companies they have bought outright recently in the video field are 
> Prismo Graphics, Silicon Grail and Nothing Real (makers of the Shake 
> compositing software).
> 
> >
> > Anyway, I was happy to be running my rig on PC but the way things are 
> > going.
> > It's all rather bogus anyway. what the frell do they care? why am I 
> > forced
> > into logic on mac?
> 
> When Apple bought Emagic in 2002 they made the sound business decision 
> to discontinue development of Logic on obsolete legacy systems like 
> Windo$e :)
> 
> > why does bill care if the stream is incriped?
> >
> > Maybe All the creative industy will port to lynix or qunix of 
> > something. SHEESH
> 
> Not very likely.
> 
> -- 
> William T Goodall
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> 
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