--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Since pretty  much the entire basis of Hitler's reality was that 
he 
> >> had to
> > come to
> >> power in order to rid Germany (and the world) of the Jews.
> >
> > I thought it was to fulfill the destiny of greatness for the 
Ayrian 
> > people.
> > The Jews were the main enemy who needed to be eliminated to stop 
them 
> > from
> > interfearing with this "glorious goal."  (Obviously I don't 
believe 
> > this
> > &%$#; just trying to remember the "logic" that he followed.)
> 
> 
> Well, that was of course part of his madness, but it is reasonable 
to 
> argue that he was more against the Jews than he was for the Aryans. 
> After all, he materially damaged Germany's chances of winning the 
war 
> in the East (or at least of forestalling defeat for a lot longer) 
by 
> his policy to transport Jews to the camps. One could argue that he 
> thought destroying the Jews was more important.

& other posts on this topic to boot.

1) Your doing it again, and this time, you are smothering a perfectly 
resonable discussion on this human reaction which needs a name, with 
a frivilous and debatable discussion on WWII. (yet again)

2) No one, even the professor we were discussing in the previous 
topic, ever compared Isreal to Nazi Germany on an equal scale. The 
comparison was based on an axis, and suggested that both Isreal and 
Nazi Germany in WWII are on the same side of the origin. Exagerating 
anothers concept and then debating the exageration is akin to lying 
about hearsay. 

3) The information you have provided about hitler is a bit 
questionable. There is evidence that he was appaled at what was going 
on but could not stop it. What the actual events, feelings, and 
intent of the man were, he was clearly not a person of good morals 
and charachter. If he was not in fact directly responsible, he was 
responsible enough to stop it if he cared to. And that makes him in 
effect directly responsible. 

The human desire to see a situation in black and white, to vilify or 
raise as a hero, is an enemy of truth, and a deterant to our species 
maturing to the point where we can develop a global society without 
such evils as raceism. 

4) The association discussed above in 2 is in no way anti-semetic any 
more than it is anti-Germanic. We can debate about the sevarity, and 
the positions on the axis we are discussing, but to state an opinion 
about such a position can not any any way be construed as being an 
assertion that all persons of a particular liniage or celebrating 
and/ or practicing a particular religion are evil, inferior, or even 
troubeling. It can not even be construde as a determination of taste. 
If a man compares the flavor of gin-and-tonic to that of bitter 
mellon, it would not make sence to then assume that the man had a 
dislike for alchohol of any sort.



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