At 10:32 PM 9/6/2004 -0500 Robert Seeberger wrote:
>JDG wrote:
>>
>> President Bush knows that this country is at war.   He specifically
>> gambled his entire Presidency on attacking Iraq because he deeply
>> felt it was the right and necessary thing to do.   You may disagree
>> with the accuracy of his judgement on this, but you certainly cannot
>> doubt his motives.
>
>I wouldn't be so certain about that last sentence John.

I am certain.

To believe anything else requires an explanation of why Tony Blair, John
Howard, Jose Maria Aznar, Silvio Berlusconi, Jose-Manuel Dur�o Barroso,
Vaclav Havel, Peter Medgyessy, Leszek Miller and Anders Fogh Rasmussen and
the leaders of many other countries - as well as John McCain, Joe
Leiberman, et al. - all thought that military force should be used to
remove Saddam Hussein - but President Bush thought that we should not, and
instead only did so for personal reasons.   To make President Bush an
outlier in that group strains credibility.

Again, to believe that the President would take us into war not for the
good of the country - but for personal reasons, or worse, as a political
distraction - is to hold a particularly craven view of politics. 
 
>> Winning this war motivates every decision with regards to terrorism
>> alerts and counter-intelligence that is made.    And anyone who
>> thinks otherwise has a particularly craven view of politics.
>>
>
>I dunno John. There are even a lot of republicans talking trash about
>Bush.

Like who?    93% of Republicans claim to be voting for him.    And I know
of no Republican who has called Bush a *traitor* - the single most heinous
charge you could make about President Bush.  

Again, even the ridiculous allegations you repeated from the Moveon.org
crowd don't even begin to rise to the level of being "traitorous" - where
Bush's motives are not only insincere, but are in fact alligned with
America's enemies in a time of war.   It is utterly preposterous, and is
the sort of rhetoric that should be beneath those who are constantly loudly
claiming offense at believing that their "patriotism" has been questioned.

JDG

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