Well, some of us have been discussing various ideas here for quite some
time. I've been here >7 years, and I think I recall Ronn being here
before me. One pattern I've seen here, as well as elsewhere, is that
polemics almost always add more heat than light. There are exceptions
to all generalities (including this one), but the signal/noise ratio in
polemics tends to be very low.
Statements such as " one of the classic specious arguments that bushco
sycophants" have a very high tendency of being followed by polemics.
It's a statement that indicates a lack of openness to other idea.
Now, it's true that there are other possibilities. I tend to search
for
these, and thus tend to read on. But, I certainly can understand
someone
who cannot read and think about every message in every list will have
such a filter.
Dan M.
thank you dan, i realize now that there may be people on brinlist who
might be offended by generalities like "bushco sycophants" . not
everyone of that persuasion is necessarily dogmatic and close minded to
other perspectives. if there are conservatives on brinlist they are
probably not the sort who are in denial about human causes of global
warming, or what the patriot act really is about. i am sure that there
are many genuine conservatives who reflect the values of the old
eisenhower, or rockefeller, or even goldwater republicans. even nixon
and reagan look good when compared to the bush neo-cons.
it has been my experience that many right wing neo-conservatives only
watch fox news, and are not interested in hearing another perspective.
their counterparts will watch fox news just to know what the other
side is saying. i am continually amazed at how murdoch's "fair and
balanced" commentators will rant on about how edwards paid $400 for a
hair cut and gets $50,000 for speaking appearances, but fail to mention
giuliani getting $100,000 for speaking engagements. maybe giuliani
doesn't require the services of a stylist because there is very little
to style!~) there is so much that fox doesn't cover about the many
excesses of the bush administration, except to atttack their critics,
not that the other media outlets are much better for being on the
defensive.
the lurker who introduced me to the brinlist took a couple years before
he finally decided the neo-cons were an aberration. when i observe
what has happened in the world during the bush administration i can
understand why carter said his foreign policy is the worst of any
administration in the history of the world. it is hard for me not to
be outraged when the constitution is being subverted.
jon m.
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