At 01:27 AM Tuesday 5/22/2007, jon louis mann wrote: >Didn't Bush come out several months ago and finally admit that Global >Warming may be man-caused? ISTR a statement like that... >Damon. > >sort of... >http://www.greenoptions.com/blog/2007/05/15/bush_wants_action_on_global_warming_emissions_sort_of > >bush treats science, education, war, even natural disasters, as >politics. his politicization of the justice department is just one >example. i have to agree with what president carter said today, that >bush has the worst foreign policy in american history. > >Does "bushco sycophants" sound like wording which considers all >viewpoints? > -- Ronn! :) > >i guess not, when you put it that way, > -- jon > >One of the hard learned lessons learned by longtime listmembers here >is that it does more harm than good to use any kind of language that >is politically inflammatory. One has to consider that there are people >here who <GASP> actually voted for Bush in one or more elections and >feel like they had good reason to do so. >One thing that one could do that would certainly rile our list >conservatives and some of our centrists is to state an opinion in such >a way as to make it appear that you assume everyone here is in total >agreement with your own political views. > >In an earlier post today you said: >" i don't know anything about the regulars here, but i assume most are >admirers of the brin perspective " > >Let me assure you that such is not the case. We all like Dr Dave and >are fans of his fiction (and to a lesser degree his non-fiction), but >we have known the good Doctor in both the best and worst of times. We >have seen his strengths and his flaws. We have enough common history >that he is more or less one of the listmembers albeit the primary >member in many ways. Even though he is not part of the daily life of >the list, he is the reason most of us came here in the first place. > >i have stooped to the same level as karl rove and stand corrected. >it's not so much that i assumed everyone on this list agrees with dr. >brin's politics, i assumed that bush republicans would not participate >on this list. perhaps they would be more likely to be fans or >pournelle or niven.
I'm also on larryniven-l. As are some others here. (I will let them identify themselves, or not, if they wish. ;) ) Though so far of the three Jerry P. is the only one I have managed to meet in person (several times) . . . >now that i think about it, however, i usually >disagree with jerry's and larry's politics, but i like their books. I suspect that there are also likely to be those who usually disagree with DB's politics who like his books. (AFAIK I don't agree or disagree with any of them 100% on politics :) ) >i >believe larry and jerry both recognize that the neocons have created >more chaos in the mideast. After 7 (?) years I'm still not entirely sure what defines the term "neocon," or how to distinguish clearly whether a particular individual is a "neocon" or is not a "neocon" . . . (I have some comments on the remainder of jon louis's post but they are going to take more time than I have had to spend on a reply the past few days.) -- Ronn! :) _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
