the lurker who introduced me to the brinlist took a couple years before
he finally decided the neo-cons were an aberration.
- jlm
The "neo-cons" you speak of might be an aberration but I think Brin-L
is poorer for their absence. There is only so long you can be
interested
in preaching to the choir. I'm mostly a lurker myself. I rarely, if
ever, have much to add to the discussion. But I learn a lot from what
I do read. I miss the exchange of radically different ideas. I may
not
have agreed with much (or anything) that some of them said but I
enjoyed listening to their arguments and getting insight on how their
minds
work. Back in the run-up to Gulf War II, I had my mind largely changed
by the debates between Dan and others.
- jmh
i absolutely agree, john, there is little i enjoy more than a stirring
debate on religion or politics. was there a reason why brin-l was down
for a while?
i was a lurker at first, on and off, after my lurker friend told me
about the list. i have to say that he is responsible for me having
changed my position on the mideast. i used to be pro-palestinian, but
now i am more repulsed by the atrocities of hamas, fatah and hezbollah,
than those of the zionists. i do not believe that the israeli forces
deliberately target civilians, but the jihadists do use human shields
and they do target civilians. israel is sincere about a two state
solution, which is unacceptable to countries like iran and syria.
i really enjoyed the emotional rhetoric between rosie and elizabeth on
the view this morning. little elizabeth gave as good, and better, than
she got. i loved her shaking her finger at rosie, who i don't much
care for, even though she is a fellow bush hater.
rosie goes too far when she insinuates that our military are
terrorists. many of them are people who volunteered after 911 and were
caught up in the hysteria. many of them, like cpl pat tillman, did not
volunteer for iraq. those who support that invasion are sublect to
military indocrination, although they are not as misguided and confused
as the jihadists who have been subjected to even more intense
propaganda, and may have lost family to the american occupation.
- jlm
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