----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Heroes (with spoilers) [was: Dick Cheney's least favorite TV show?]
*** Heroes - with spoilers *** Robert Seeberger wrote: > >>>> More detail. I pretty much knew all these spoilers before I saw >>>> the >>>> episodes and/or figured the course of things out beforehand. >>> >>> It was a surprise to see George Takei as Hiro's father... Even >>> though it seems he's a minor character. >> >> I believe he or his character is coming back next season. Perhaps >> not so minor in the overall mythos. >> >Will there be a next season? I thought the 1st was all that was >there to watch. > 23 or 24 episodes next season with a companion series Heroes: Origins to play during the mid-season break. There is some talk that season 3 will play year-round, whatever that could mean. The show is immensely popular, it was developing a worldwide following just a few episodes into the first season via torrents. >> >>> And reading things in the Internet is a _very_ bad idea if you >>> want to watch a show. I was looking for data on episodes I had >>> missed, and I learned that the cheerleader was the daughter >>> of the flying man - information that comes from Ep 13! >> >> Spoilers don't bother me too much. I'm usually thinking about how >> Hiro's power works and the implications. When I watch an episode >> where I know some of what is to come, I am looking for clues to >> what >> will come beyond what I am seeing now. Kring and co have given us a >> very fun game in this. >> >Kring? Tim Kring is the creator of the series. I think he was behind Crossing Jordan also. > >> Now when Nathan was revealed to be Claires bio-father I was pissed. >> It seemed to me to be a pointless, soap-operaish plot point. >> >It would be a cliché if _Sylar_ was Claire's bio-father :-) LOL! You'd get a good laugh at some of the fan theories. There was one French guy on 9th Wonders who claimed to speak 12 languages and to have worked on "time travel" with Carl Sagan. Uh Huh! > >> But >> there was some redemption in later drama that stemmed from the >> revelation that *did* expand and advance the story. I just dislike >> the idea that everyone is related to everyone else in some kind of >> shipper fantasy. >> >Maybe this could be a "logical" explanation for the superpowers. >All of them are children or grand-children of Hiro, who >travelled back in time and fathered the first generation of >supermen. Hiro would be his own grand-father, like Futurama's Fry. > I suspect it will be something a bit more grandiose, but would not be surprised to see Hiro involved. >> >>> Of course my two favourite characters are Hiro Nakamura >>> and the cheerleader. >> >> Same here. I think the best thing about the show is the expansive >> cast. East Asians, South Asians, Carribeans....the show is more >> like >> the world than any other fiction on American television. Next year >> they will have Hispanics!<G> >> >I like the japanese speaking Japanese, instead of japanese speaking >English with a japanese accent when they are supposed to be speaking >Japanese. That did tend to increase the believeability of those situations. > >In this we should praise Mel Gibson: 5 years ago, nobody would >dare to put any other language, but after the success of >The Passion of the Christ, we have to see people speaking their >own languages. > >> >>> Tom Orley's "powers" are nowhere near the demigods of Heroes. >> >> Bah! >> Most of the powers are not all that special and would not allow any >> individual to dominate large numbers of people. >> >Hiro: can go back in time and kill your grandfather. He is by >far the most powerful of all Well.....almost. If Peter absorbs Hiro's power then he is more powerful, but as it stands I agree that Hiro's power is the most powerful shown so far. > >Cheerleader: no big deal, even to defend herself her power is useless >(Sylar would have killed her anyway) Yuppers! > >Nathan the flying man: no big deal, great for escaping Buuuuuuut....he escaped the Haitian and Peter did the same using Nathans power. > >Haitian: this is a *huge* power. He could dominate anyone, just by >turning them into mindless drones Even more, he can prevent people from using their power. > >The one with the persuasion power: another *huge* power. It was >stupid to let herself be killed by Sylar Well....she killed herself to keep Sylar from getting her power. > >Peter: alone, he is useless. But if he can recolled the other >people's >powers, he is invincible Sylar killed him twice....not quite invincible. > >and so on. Half of them _could_ dominate a large number of people. Temporarily maybe. Any of them (excepting Claire and Peter under most circumstances) can be killed conventionally and permanantly. A sniper, a bomb, poison gas, a pointy stick. They are only human regardless of special talents. Do we need a bodycount? > >> While the "Heroes" >> are a bit flashy, the majority of them are not much different than >> Orley. Outside of Peter and Sylar, Orley could likey whoop most of >> them. >> >No, he couldn't. He wouldn't even get close to most of them. See above. > >> Orley is definately smarter than any of them. I believe Orleys >> intelligence accounts for a great deal. >> >Bah. In a world with superheroes, Orley would be the _villain_ :-P Dubious<G> > >> I would also note that HRG >> (Noah Bennet) has no powers but has been on top of the empowered >> individuals almost all the series. >> >Yes, and it makes no sense that Sylar didn't kill him (ok, Sylar >was mad, he only killed supermen, but then why he would kill >Noah's wife?) Sylar has revealed that he finds regular humans not worth killing. He only kills to gain power or to preserve his freedom, as crazy as he is. > >>> Zane? I don't remember this name (BTW, I can hardly remeber the >>> names of them all - better be Hiro-like and call them >>> by the superpowers). >> >> Zane could make metals turn into a liquid form without using heat. >> >This is a huge destructive power! It could be in the right circumstances, but that has not occured as of yet. xponent Not Quite A Days Worth Maru rob
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