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From: "Alberto Monteiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: Heroes (with spoilers)


*** Heroes - with spoilers ***

Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
>> LOL! You'd get a good laugh at some of the fan theories. There was
>> one French guy on 9th Wonders who claimed to speak 12 languages and
>> to have worked on "time travel" with Carl Sagan. Uh Huh!
>>
>12 languages is no such big deal, but "time travel" with Sagan...
>How old is he? 12? He says he worked relative to his own time,
>or in Sagan's time? Maybe we will work, then get back in time
>just to discuss it with Sagan.
>

I figured the guy was some type of troll myself.

>>
>>> Nathan the flying man: no big deal, great for escaping
>>
>> Buuuuuuut....he escaped the Haitian and Peter did the same using
>> Nathans power.
>>
>I think I missed these episodes, unless they are in (my) future.
>Last week's episodes were the 12 and 13 (and on Saturday there
>was a mini-Takei marathon, with him in Psych and Heroes).
>

OK...I'm going to be more careful about what I give away from here 
out, but Nathans escape was at the beginning of episode 5 "Hiros". 
That one was the best of the early episodes.

>>
>>> Haitian: this is a *huge* power. He could dominate anyone, just by
>>> turning them into mindless drones
>>
>> Even more, he can prevent people from using their power.
>>
>I forgot that. The mind-reader and Sylar were quite useless near him.


Quite handy for someone hunting Heroes, but then so was the guy he 
replaced.<G>

>
>>
>>> The one with the persuasion power: another *huge* power. It was
>>> stupid to let herself be killed by Sylar
>>
>> Well....she killed herself to keep Sylar from getting her power.
>>
>Ok... but it was a stupid way to die.

Sure. Eden should have never tried to face Sylar on her own. Very 
stupid!

>
>>
>>> Peter: alone, he is useless. But if he can recolled the other
>>> people's powers, he is invincible
>>
>> Sylar killed him twice....not quite invincible.
>>
>But he wasn't yet able to use all the powers.


Predictably....things change. You learn to walk. You learn to ride a 
bike. You learn to drive.

>
>>
>>> and so on. Half of them _could_ dominate a large number of people.
>>
>> Temporarily maybe. Any of them (excepting Claire and Peter under
>> most circumstances) can be killed conventionally and permanantly. A
>> sniper, a bomb, poison gas, a pointy stick. They are only human
>> regardless of special talents. Do we need a bodycount?
>>
>No - but then they must be caught.

Um........I'm going to leave this alone til you have seen the entire 
series.

>
>
>>>> While the "Heroes"
>>>> are a bit flashy, the majority of them are not much different 
>>>> than
>>>> Orley. Outside of Peter and Sylar, Orley could likey whoop most 
>>>> of
>>>> them.
>>>
>>> No, he couldn't. He wouldn't even get close to most of them.
>>
>> See above.
>>
>Ok, you think Orley could ambush the Heroes and kill them, one
>by one? Except for one detail: the drugged foreteller would _paint_
>him doing it.

If you have seen 12 episodes then you can understand the limits of 
prescience. Can ones mind encompass the entireity of the future? Is a 
foretelling a warning or an inevitability?
These are good questions to ponder during future episodes.
I have seen the future of your television!<G>

>
>>
>>>> Orley is definately smarter than any of them. I believe Orleys
>>>> intelligence accounts for a great deal.
>>>
>>> Bah. In a world with superheroes, Orley would be the _villain_ :-P
>>
>> Dubious<G>
>>
>In a superhero world, intelligent people are _always_ the evil 
>villains.

That is usually true I'll grant you. On Heroes.....it is not so true. 
At least not in the most simplistic terms. I think that is part of the 
charm of the show.

>
>>>> Zane could make metals turn into a liquid form without using 
>>>> heat.
>>>
>>> This is a huge destructive power!
>>
>> It could be in the right circumstances, but that has not occured as
>> of yet.
>>
>You can destroy a nuke, for example. Or a building. Or a gun. Or a
>cell phone :-)
>
We shouldn't be talking about this yet. Zane is a few eps in your 
future.
Apologies!

Be sure to watch the episodes "Company Man" and "Parasite"(17 and 18 
respectively). Some of the best TV I've seen in years.

But I have a few questions:
Are you watching Heroes in Portugese? Dubbed? Subtitles? or is it in 
english?
What kind of schedule is the show shown on? (Once a week or whatever?)
And is the show very popular in Brazil?

xponent
Dattebayo Maru
rob 


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