There is no certain way to protect one from fooling oneself, but I've
found scholarship to be helpful.  
I tend to downgrade documentaries like this because I think they are
not efficient ways of
conveying information.  They are a good way of conveying feeling....
(sic)

of course any dialogue should be based on informed views, dan.  just
not on "facts" from talk radio or fox news.  moore's films are backed
both by source data, and humorous anecdotes.  too much pedantry, even
when factual, tends to lose an audience.  i don't see the neo-cons
supporting their lies and distortions with facts.  their emotional
appeal to primal hates and fears has misled many more americans than
moore's films.  btw, have you seen any of them?

I thought the question was why plants other than corn weren't used. 
I'm not sure I want the market to run free in farming....because the
natural outcome would be only a few companies
owning all the farms.   (sic)

that was the question and i would prefer the government invest in
alternate sources of fuel energy than in wars over oil.  as for
agribusiness, that is already happening, and let's not forget corporate
subsidies.

I don't see why preferring corn has to do with subsidies for farmers.
(sic)

really, it should be obvious...

I don't see ethanol or bio-diesel as solutions. (sic)

not now, perhaps, but what if there were government subsidized R&D, or
should we wait until we exhaust our petroleum, and/or ecocide is
imminent?  you're more than welcome to provide the data to convince me
this is not a danger and that there is an unfavorable economic for
electric cars. 

is your argument that there is some secret plan of the car and oil
companies... that include nations and companies having widely different
interests... all toeing the secret party line. (sic)

i see what you are doing, dan.  let me ask you a question, do you
believe there is a world wide network of terrorists working to destroy
all infidels?   
it should be obvious that market forces, and profit margins determine
short term interests far more than environmental concerns over long
term consequences.  
i am not arguing vast conspiracies.  i do believe convenient canards
like terrorism (and communism in the past) are being used by one side,
just as fears of western decadence and imperialism are used by the
other side.
jon


       
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