Robert wrote:

> You wonder why Texans think of themselves as tough?<G> Yesterday I was
> moving, packing boxes into a Uhaul, lifting furniture and all that for
> over 10 hours. Houston is much more humid than Austin and the temp
> where I live was 104F.
> About 2 hours into the moving I pulled a muscle in my back. But the
> show must go on.
> I feel ">WONDERFUL<" this morning! <G>

I'll bet.  I was humping sod all morning Saturday, and digging in the mud  
in the afternoon.  I didn't hurt anything, but I was as stiff as a board  
this morning.

I hope you aren't hurt too badly.

> *************************************************
> You Yankees just don't get it!<G>
> I'm know that you are aware that the Civil War was a particularly
> bloody conflict and many young lives were lost on both sides. Do you
> think that even on the losing side people would not memorialize those
> who fought for their cause? You have to remember that slavery was just
> the tip of the iceberg of reasons why the war was fought.
> OTOH, if you are under the impression that the reason the North fought
> in the Civil War was to "free those poor slaves", you need to review
> your history. At that time there were slaves working at The White
> House (among other Northern locations), so you have to wonder what was
> up with that.

The reason the war was fought initially was to preserve the Union, but the  
reason the South broke that union was to preserve slavery.  Slavery was  
not the tip, but the root of the problem.  Ask the question if there had  
been no slavery would there have been a Civil War?  Every single cause  
forwarded can be traced back to the "peculiar" institution.

I have no problem at all with a memorial for those that fell in the Civil  
War.  What I have a problem with is the idea that they were fighting for  
some noble cause like state's rights.  Lincoln himself believed in the  
right of states to secede, but he believed that the cause for the  
secession had to be just and that the preservation of the institution of  
slavery was not a just cause.

> xponent
> Apologies If My Tone Appears Uncivil<G> Maru

No apology necessary.  I know many people really believe that slavery was  
an ancillary cause for secession, I know that's what they teach kids in  
the South; I've had this discussion before.  The bottom line is, had  
slavery been abolished at some earlier juncture, the conflict would not  
have occurred.

Doug
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