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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of jon louis mann
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:38 PM
> To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
> Subject: Obama
> 
> This reminded me that I'm both an Obama delegate and, probably, the one
> who has been the strongest advcocate of relatively conservative
> causes... well, conservative by Brin-L standards. :-)
> Dan M.
> 
> it's all relative, dan.  i notice a lot of sf fans are pragmatic, and
> independent.  we don't necessarily hew to dogmatic party lines. 

It's true that Sci-Fi fans are not randomly sampled from the general
population.  But, I have two distributions that I was considering when I
made my statement:

1) I considered the historic Brin-L distribution.  We had two people who
took the conservative side of the issue more often than not on this list.
Both are effectively gone.  This list has characteristics, and conservative
is not among them.

> I
> sometimes take reactionary conservative, and libertarian positions, and
> sometimes progressive, or radical marxist positions.

But, as you noted elsewhere, your general position is against the broad
middle of the viewpoint of the US.  That sort of viewpoint is not unwelcome
here.  I think it is safe to say that folks who see a lot of reasonableness
in mainstream Republican ideas do not post much here.  One of the folks who
has, in the past, has characterized me as the most conservative person on
Brin-L.


> how did you get to be an obama delegate?

I showed up to the precinct caucus and was elected a delegate to the county
convention.  _That was a nightmare._ It took almost 8 hours to get the
delegates and the alternates who were eligible to be delegates seated.  It
took only 10 minutes, once this happened, for our precinct to go ahead and
elected one Obama delegate and one Clinton alternate...which was the
inevitable outcome of our precinct vote.  I wish I could find a good villain
to blame for the time it took, but it was mere incompetence.

In Minn, we got that done in 15 minutes....without computers in 1972. The
Texan list members might jump all over me, as did the people at the
convention, but as I pointed out, that's a natural result of the difference
in practicality between Texans and Minnesotians.

Dan M. 


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