> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Charlie Bell > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:59 PM > To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion > Subject: Re: Global Warming and new numbers > > > On 27/09/2008, at 3:02 AM, Dan M wrote: > > > 2007 numbers have just come out, and they confirm a disturbing > > trend. China > > in 2007 emitted 2 billion tons of carbon, compared to the US's 1.75 > > billion > > in second place. The US actually went up 2%, so China had to go up > > about > > 10% to get that far in the lead. > > Should be looking at per capita emissions, shouldn't we? > > Charlie.
I guess it depends on what the point is. But, since you mentioned it, the latest numbers for per capita that I could find have the greatest per capita users, in order from 2005 as: Gibraltar 155.76 Virgin Islands, U.S. 147.68 Qatar 61.94 Netherlands Antilles 50.20 Bahrain 36.58 Trinidad and Tobago 35.51 United Arab Emirates 33.73 Kuwait 32.84 Singapore 30.25 Luxembourg 26.79 Australia 20.24 United States 20.14 Canada 19.24 Brunei 17.84 Netherlands 16.44 I actually didn't realize that Luxembourg was such an offender. My point, though, is that we are fast approaching a time where the West can cut their per capita output by 50% and the total emission numbers will still increase....because China is exceeding the predicted rate of increase which will have it alone emitting twice the total of the US and EU in 20 years. My point is that any slowing of this trend will require an energy source that is cheap by China's standards...otherwise they won't use it. China is doing nothing that the UK, Australia, the US, etc. didn't do on the way up the economic ladder. So, I didn't mean to assess blame, just point out that global warming is becoming an issue that is outside the control of the West. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l