Hey guys,

I know I'm not a student any more, but I really enjoyed student ultimate
and think it should be developed as far as possible, and I do think that
BUSA has a role to play in this.

One of the first emails that went around about this (apoligies for not
trawling through to find the exact quote) stated that BUSA points would be
awarded to the BUSA recognised teams, and therefore the Irish teams could
compete, but their final standings wouldn't be taken into account by the
BUSA officials. This also seems like it would provide scope for the
universities without full teams to join together, still compete, but not
receive any BUSA points for it. I don't see how anyone could complain about
that.

I apologise if I have misunderstood the situation, and if I have, then is
there any reason why what I have outlined above could not be put in place?
Also previously stated was that it is only Nationals that is actually a
BUSA event, and I know that this is the highlight of the uni calendar, but
how many teams that come from split universities are qualifiying for
nationals these days? And if they are, why aren't the teams that get to
train together more regularly beating them? But that's a different topic
entirely.

Anyway, apologies again if I'm wrong, but this would seem a sensible step.

And Jack Black rules!

Alex




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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:39:51 +0000
From: "Liam Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [BD] Uni student eligability
To: [email protected]
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   Something I thought id throw out there.

   When has exclusion ever been progression?

   Don't we have to build before we start making moves like this? With
   the sport so young, is it not it a little extreme to favor funding for
   stable clubs over the expansion of the sport, and the inclusion of as
   many people / teams as we can push for. Are we forgetting the grass
   roots of the sport?

   What about Open University students, students studying HE at a college
   not at University, Foundation students and of course, student Ultimate
   players with no team at their Uni. Basically they don't matter as long
   as we get BUSA points...?

   So now we exclude the Irish teams because they are of course, not
   British Universitys yet they have been able to compete at University
   Nationals every year up until this season, who cares right, as long as
   we get BUSA points?

   Just an idea here, but wouldnt it be more logical and fair to have
   another session of events, along side the current (old school)
   university events. An example would be; University Open Indoor
   Qualifiers, then BUSA indoor Qualifiers. Followed by; University Open
   Indoor Nationals, then BUSA University Open Indoor Nationals. As
   separate events.

   I think its a little drastic to start denying people the right to play
   Ultimate at a competitive level, just because they chose to go to
   university with no Ultimate team. So they should start their own team
   right? Well not everyone is as capable of starting a team as others,
   or have the interest from students at the University.

   Its easy to say, well they should start their own team but progression
   doesnt come by forcing it, it comes from support and hard work, people
   dont go to University to start a team and look after it, they go to
   study

   are YOU going to come to the affected universitys and set up a team
   for the fellow Ultimate players who are affected by this because then
   I would stand corrected.


   Apologies for the blunt nature of this email, I just woke up!
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