Am i going mad? That last email made me really question my sanity! > so under these rules you might as well just toss > it out the side near your endzone and then walk up to their brick mark.
If they had half a brain they would take it at the side of the pitch where you threw it out, 5 yards from your endzone, and from where they are pretty likely to score. There is still skill and advantage in good pulling! > when the upwind pull never goes very far, > that's just an extra advantage for the team going downwind, > and makes games even more likely to be won on the toss. Extra advantage? They don't get to middle it anymore (if they don't want to brick it all the way back near their zone) and will most likely have to play off the downwind sideline. Sounds like a disadvantage to me! Anyway - perhaps I'm so old the rules have changed and I'm entirely wrong. Enjoyed the weekend very much, thanks Brighton that was a top notch Tour event and all the other TDs should sit up and take notice!! Bear -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IndoorsDOC Sent: 10 June 2008 17:51 To: brit disc Subject: Re: [BD] 2008 rules There have been numerous tourneys in scotland where it was impossible (in the wind) to throw the disc as far as the opposing brick mark, so under these rules you might as well just toss it out the side near your endzone and then walk up to their brick mark. It does rather take the skill out of pulling in [EMAIL PROTECTED] conditions. You might find some very young junior teams will be best suited to just chucking it out the side also, if they don't have big arms. On the other hand, in [EMAIL PROTECTED] conditions, when the upwind pull never goes very far, that's just an extra advantage for the team going downwind, and makes games even more likely to be won on the toss. So if we now make them play from their brick mark at least a bit of ultimate will be played. So I reckon I'll reserve judgement until I've seen how they work out. We can always change 'em back next year. B Jack wrote: > ...in which case you could choose to take it from the brick instead. > > > > On 10 Jun 2008, at 13:51, Andrew Mosedale wrote: > > >> Doesn't seem a great idea if you've a big crosswind and don't want >> to be >> trapped on the sideline the pull would inevitably go out of... >> >> Still, pros and cons, thems the way rules work >> >> >>> Hmm... >>> Hopefully I won't have to provide the background to every single >>> change, >>> but... >>> >>> Yes - this is true. >>> >>> >>> The change is driven by: >>> 1. simplify the rules - even look for opportunities to completely >>> remove >>> things! 2. speed up the game >>> >>> >>> If a pull goes straight out of bounds 20 yds up from endzone line the >>> receiving team already gets a great advantage - so why not keep the >>> game >>> moving quickly and start from the sideline. Also - there isn't a >>> "middle >>> line", so this avoids the need for slowing down to work out where the >>> middle is, agree with opponent, check the disc, etc, etc. >>> >>> Alternatively if the pull goes out somewhere in the area around the >>> brick >>> and you want the advantage of the playing from middle of field, then >>> just use brick mark. No advantage lost by going backwards a few >>> metres. >>> Re-start happens more quickly because it happens from a known, marked >>> point on field, etc, etc. >>> >>> I thought this was quite a neat idea >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Jonathan >>>> Sent: 10 June 2008 09:23 >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [BD] 2008 rules >>>> >>>> >>>> Haven't had a chance to really read them, but one thing that >>>> immediately jumps out is that there is no 'middle' rule if the >>>> pull goes >>>> off the pitch without ground contact. You can either brick or play >>>> it >>>> from where it went out. >>>> >>>> Hmm... >>>> >>>> >>>> Jono >>>> Flyght Club >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> ] >>>> On Behalf Of Buckling, Ewen >>>> Sent: 10 Jun 2008 09:02 >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: [BD] 2008 rules >>>> >>>> >>>> I have just found these on the wfdf website: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.wfdf.org/rules/WFDF_Ultimate_Rules_2008_Official_Ve >>>> rsion.pdf <http://www.wfdf.org/rules/WFDF_Ultimate_Rules_2008_Official_V >>>> ersion.pdf >>>> >>>> Are we still using the 2007 rules for mixed tour or will we >>>> now use these? 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