Good point. I may in fact be be an idiot... B
Roger Thomson wrote: > Am i going mad? That last email made me really question my sanity! > > >> so under these rules you might as well just toss >> it out the side near your endzone and then walk up to their brick mark. >> > > If they had half a brain they would take it at the side of the pitch where > you threw it out, 5 yards from your endzone, and from where they are pretty > likely to score. There is still skill and advantage in good pulling! > > >> when the upwind pull never goes very far, >> that's just an extra advantage for the team going downwind, >> and makes games even more likely to be won on the toss. >> > > Extra advantage? They don't get to middle it anymore (if they don't want to > brick it all the way back near their zone) and will most likely have to play > off the downwind sideline. Sounds like a disadvantage to me! > > Anyway - perhaps I'm so old the rules have changed and I'm entirely wrong. > > Enjoyed the weekend very much, thanks Brighton that was a top notch Tour > event and all the other TDs should sit up and take notice!! > > Bear > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of IndoorsDOC > Sent: 10 June 2008 17:51 > To: brit disc > Subject: Re: [BD] 2008 rules > > There have been numerous tourneys in scotland where it was impossible > (in the wind) to throw the disc as far as the opposing brick mark, so > under these rules you might as well just toss it out the side near your > endzone and then walk up to their brick mark. It does rather take the > skill out of pulling in [EMAIL PROTECTED] conditions. > > You might find some very young junior teams will be best suited to just > chucking it out the side also, if they don't have big arms. > > On the other hand, in [EMAIL PROTECTED] conditions, when the upwind pull > never goes > very far, that's just an extra advantage for the team going downwind, > and makes games even more likely to be won on the toss. So if we now > make them play from their brick mark at least a bit of ultimate will be > played. > > So I reckon I'll reserve judgement until I've seen how they work out. We > can always change 'em back next year. > > B > > Jack wrote: > >> ...in which case you could choose to take it from the brick instead. >> >> >> >> On 10 Jun 2008, at 13:51, Andrew Mosedale wrote: >> >> >> >>> Doesn't seem a great idea if you've a big crosswind and don't want >>> to be >>> trapped on the sideline the pull would inevitably go out of... >>> >>> Still, pros and cons, thems the way rules work >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hmm... >>>> Hopefully I won't have to provide the background to every single >>>> change, >>>> but... >>>> >>>> Yes - this is true. >>>> >>>> >>>> The change is driven by: >>>> 1. simplify the rules - even look for opportunities to completely >>>> remove >>>> things! 2. speed up the game >>>> >>>> >>>> If a pull goes straight out of bounds 20 yds up from endzone line the >>>> receiving team already gets a great advantage - so why not keep the >>>> game >>>> moving quickly and start from the sideline. Also - there isn't a >>>> "middle >>>> line", so this avoids the need for slowing down to work out where the >>>> middle is, agree with opponent, check the disc, etc, etc. >>>> >>>> Alternatively if the pull goes out somewhere in the area around the >>>> brick >>>> and you want the advantage of the playing from middle of field, then >>>> just use brick mark. No advantage lost by going backwards a few >>>> metres. >>>> Re-start happens more quickly because it happens from a known, marked >>>> point on field, etc, etc. >>>> >>>> I thought this was quite a neat idea >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Jonathan >>>>> Sent: 10 June 2008 09:23 >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [BD] 2008 rules >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Haven't had a chance to really read them, but one thing that >>>>> immediately jumps out is that there is no 'middle' rule if the >>>>> pull goes >>>>> off the pitch without ground contact. You can either brick or play >>>>> it >>>>> from where it went out. >>>>> >>>>> Hmm... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jono >>>>> Flyght Club >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> ] >>>>> On Behalf Of Buckling, Ewen >>>>> Sent: 10 Jun 2008 09:02 >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: [BD] 2008 rules >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have just found these on the wfdf website: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.wfdf.org/rules/WFDF_Ultimate_Rules_2008_Official_Ve >>>>> rsion.pdf >>>>> > <http://www.wfdf.org/rules/WFDF_Ultimate_Rules_2008_Official_V > >>>>> ersion.pdf >>>>> >>>>> Are we still using the 2007 rules for mixed tour or will we >>>>> now use these? 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