al3xu5 / dotcommon <[email protected]> writes: > ok... i just say (for all the reason i told) that using non-free > themes with gnu icecat is a limitation of users freedom and is > problematic respect to the Guidelines for Free System Distributions
then these guidelines are not completely compatible with the GNU ones. As a GNU project, IceCat follows the GNU guidelines, if we think that something should be changed there then we need to move this discussion to a wider audience. > in dubt, why risk? We don't want to risk, but I don't want to advise users to don't use something if they can do without problems. >> Even trivial non-free JavaScript programs are not considered an issue >> but an extension of HTML. Usually, code inside CSS is just define >> some event callbacks, can it be really considered code? > > this is an open question... > but if our aim is freedom i think the answer should be clear Yes, we must find a clear answer. From my experience, all I ever saw in CSS can be considered as a simple extension to HTML and not software. >> > - if we do not consider to be free all the artwork included in a >> > software, then the same shuold be done for all logos, icons, >> > colours, buttons, etc.??? >> >> Yes. > > do not is enough to avoid non-free themes??? It is the same question, if there wouldn't be problems with non-free themes then the same arguments can be used to prove there are not problems with logos, icons, colours, buttons... > probably you are right giuseppe... > in my opinion, GNU is not very clear about some basical issues... and > sometimes seems to contradict itself... if these issues are not completely clear, then we need to ask them to try to make them clearer. > giuseppe, can html embed executable code? should we check one-by-one > all the web pages? HTML _can_ embed executable code, that is the JavaScript trap described here: [http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html]. In reality it should be checked, since JS is executed on your machine, but it is easily understandable that it is not possible while with themes it is possible. > the point, i think, is not if they can embed code... the point is > if they are released with or wirtout a free licence I still think that the point is if they embed code or not, in the first case the theme is considered software, in the second it is an artwork. > otherwise, what is the diference between IceCat and FF? why > peolple shoul use IceCat and not FF? IceCat doesn't use non-free plugins and addons, that are software. Cheers, Giuseppe -- http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
