I cannot accept that putting a breath mark on the downbeat should ever be
the expected output, especially when that only occurs due to a grace note
in another staff (which, from what I understood, doesn't shorten the
preceding note but the following one anyways). It's nonsensical to me that
this should be considered intended behavior. It's simply non-musical to
assume that a breath mark is meant to go after the bar line unless
otherwise specified by the engraver.

- Nikolai

On Wed, Sep 16, 2026, 03:10 David Kastrup <[email protected]> wrote:

> Werner LEMBERG <[email protected]> writes:
>
> >>> Honestly, I don't care about the details.  With "issue #34" I
> >>> subsume all synchronizing problems due to grace notes.  If you
> >>> think this is an invalid generalization maybe more issues are
> >>> needed.
> >>
> >> But I don't see this example as an actual issue: it is being typeset
> >> exactly as requested.
> >
> > How so?  The movement of the breathe sign to a position *after* the
> > bar line in a voice *without* a `\grace` command can hardly be called
> > 'as requested'.  It's simply plain wrong.
>
> It is explicitly specified to occur after the full note length, not
> shortened by the grace note occuring in the other voice.
>
> How else would you specify breathing _there_?
>
> --
> David Kastrup
>
>

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