I should add that it would have been pretty easy to convince me to go for a -0 
because those 2 missing files are really not that important. 

But otoh, such things tend to get forgotten if they are not resolved 
immediately, and I think we all like to get BVAL out of the incubator as fast 
as possible. And a perfect first release is always a good start :)


For the votes: most are majority votes, but in my experience 90% of the votes 
pass with only +1 (because no one likes to call a vote if something is 
obviously flowed). 
>From the 10% with some -1 votes, 95% of those cases are failures which slipped 
>through but are unisono agreed on should-get-fixed before the release - or it 
>could be made clear that the behaviour is not a problem. 

And only this very little rest (I've rarely seen such cases) there is a 
discussion because of different flavours and styles where people cannot find a 
compromise. 

But that's also not really a problem - if someone votes -1 and you think it's 
stupid, then simply tell your arguments ;) We are a community project, and 
discussion arguments are the most precious power we have :)

txs and LieGrue,
strub

--- On Wed, 5/26/10, Kevan Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Kevan Miller <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Bean Validation 0.1-incubating Release Candidate
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 2:46 PM
> 
> On May 26, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Carlos Vara wrote:
> 
> >> 
> >> Usually there are good reasons if someone votes a
> -1 on a release - and all
> >> projects I know just suspend the vote until the
> vetoing member either got
> >> convinced to recall his veto or the problem got
> resolved.
> >> 
> > 
> > I didn't know this, seems reasonable taking into
> account that after a -1
> > vote has been placed other votes don't really make
> much sense.
> 
> Agreed. Technically, release votes are simple majority
> votes (with a requirement of 3 PMC votes). It is very good
> practice to resolve any -1 issues on a release vote.
> However, there are occasions where communities have decided
> that it was acceptable. It would be highly unusual for an
> Incubator project to try and release with any outstanding -1
> issues.
> 
> --kevan


      

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