On May 27, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Donald Woods wrote: > > > On 5/27/10 12:21 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: >> >> On May 26, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >> >>> You can find it either in sections 7.1.4 and 7.2 of the >>> bean_validation-1_0-final-spec.pdf or from the RI source at - >>> http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/hibernate/validator/tags/v4_0_2_GA/hibernate-validator/src/main/xsd/ >>> >>> which uses ASL 2.0 - >>> http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/hibernate/validator/tags/v4_0_2_GA/hibernate-validator/license.txt >>> >>> The schemas still have not been posted on-line, so we have to include >>> them.... >>> >>> xsi:schemaLocation="http://jboss.org/xml/ns/javax/validation/configuration >>> validation-configuration-1.0.xsd" >>> >>> Not sure why they haven't been included or linked to from Sun/Oracle yet >>> - http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/ >> >> Thanks. If that's the case, then I see no need for the following in the >> NOTICE file: >> >> "The Bean Validation JSR-303 module (bval-jsr303) includes the Bean >> Validation >> schemas: >> validation-configuration-1.0.xsd >> validation-mapping-1.0.xsd >> from the JSR-303 specification under ASL 2.0. >> >> JBoss, Home of Professional Open Source >> Copyright 2008-2009, Red Hat, Inc. and/or its affiliates, and individual >> contributors" >> >> There's no NOTICE file in their Bean Validation source. Therefore, there's >> no requirement for any mention in our NOTICE file. IMO, it should be removed >> from the root NOTICE file (and also from >> bundle/src/main/appended-resources/META-INF/NOTICE.vm and any other NOTICE >> file, where it is mentioned). >> > > Wasn't sure, as all of their generated websites and docs (TCK Spec and > TCK test harness) contains the following - > > Copyright © 2009 Red Hat, Inc. > > http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/stable/beanvalidation/tck/reference/html_single/ > > Should I start a RC3 or wait another day to collect more feedback?
Here's the initial feedback from trademarks@: On May 27, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Lawrence Rosen wrote: >>> Legal-internal@: do we have any policy or suggestions on including >> any sorts of trademark attributions for our own trademarks in our >> product's NOTICE files? > > A trademark becomes such by being used *as a trademark* in the places where > trademarks ordinarily go on a product or its packaging or, in modern > situations, on the website where the software product is advertised and > downloaded. > > Notices in the form of a TM or R symbol, or a more eloquent notice, > identifying the trademark owner on the product or packaging or website are > helpful to identify the trademarks for those who don't know a trademark from > a rat's ass. > > Notices in the NOTICE file are helpful to those who will download and > perhaps modify Apache software so that they may easily recognize trademarks > already in use for that software. > > Helpful trademark notices aren't legally required, but you'll have a harder > time collecting damages for trademark infringement if you don't give good > notice to the trademark unaware. So, would seem the trademark notice is optional. I'll be OK with or without the Trademark attribution in the NOTICE files. There is not yet a policy regarding this. So, once the unnecessary information is removed from the NOTICE file in RC3 and NOTICE files are consistent, I should be ok... Did I mention this already? The root NOTICE file contains: "The following copyright notice(s) were affixed to portions of this code with which this file is now or was at one time distributed. This product includes software developed by agimatec GmbH. Copyright 2007-2010 Agimatec GmbH. All rights reserved." Yet the jar NOTICE files do not. Would seem they should be consistent (one way or the other). --kevan
