On 5/31/10 10:56 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: > > On May 27, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Donald Woods wrote: > >> >> >> On 5/27/10 12:21 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: >>> >>> On May 26, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Donald Woods wrote: >>> >>>> You can find it either in sections 7.1.4 and 7.2 of the >>>> bean_validation-1_0-final-spec.pdf or from the RI source at - >>>> http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/hibernate/validator/tags/v4_0_2_GA/hibernate-validator/src/main/xsd/ >>>> >>>> which uses ASL 2.0 - >>>> http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/hibernate/validator/tags/v4_0_2_GA/hibernate-validator/license.txt >>>> >>>> The schemas still have not been posted on-line, so we have to include >>>> them.... >>>> >>>> xsi:schemaLocation="http://jboss.org/xml/ns/javax/validation/configuration >>>> validation-configuration-1.0.xsd" >>>> >>>> Not sure why they haven't been included or linked to from Sun/Oracle yet >>>> - http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/ >>> >>> Thanks. If that's the case, then I see no need for the following in the >>> NOTICE file: >>> >>> "The Bean Validation JSR-303 module (bval-jsr303) includes the Bean >>> Validation >>> schemas: >>> validation-configuration-1.0.xsd >>> validation-mapping-1.0.xsd >>> from the JSR-303 specification under ASL 2.0. >>> >>> JBoss, Home of Professional Open Source >>> Copyright 2008-2009, Red Hat, Inc. and/or its affiliates, and individual >>> contributors" >>> >>> There's no NOTICE file in their Bean Validation source. Therefore, there's >>> no requirement for any mention in our NOTICE file. IMO, it should be >>> removed from the root NOTICE file (and also from >>> bundle/src/main/appended-resources/META-INF/NOTICE.vm and any other NOTICE >>> file, where it is mentioned). >>> >> >> Wasn't sure, as all of their generated websites and docs (TCK Spec and >> TCK test harness) contains the following - >> >> Copyright © 2009 Red Hat, Inc. >> >> http://docs.jboss.org/hibernate/stable/beanvalidation/tck/reference/html_single/ >> >> Should I start a RC3 or wait another day to collect more feedback? > > Here's the initial feedback from trademarks@: > > On May 27, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Lawrence Rosen wrote: > >>>> Legal-internal@: do we have any policy or suggestions on including >>> any sorts of trademark attributions for our own trademarks in our >>> product's NOTICE files? >> >> A trademark becomes such by being used *as a trademark* in the places where >> trademarks ordinarily go on a product or its packaging or, in modern >> situations, on the website where the software product is advertised and >> downloaded. >> >> Notices in the form of a TM or R symbol, or a more eloquent notice, >> identifying the trademark owner on the product or packaging or website are >> helpful to identify the trademarks for those who don't know a trademark from >> a rat's ass. >> >> Notices in the NOTICE file are helpful to those who will download and >> perhaps modify Apache software so that they may easily recognize trademarks >> already in use for that software. >> >> Helpful trademark notices aren't legally required, but you'll have a harder >> time collecting damages for trademark infringement if you don't give good >> notice to the trademark unaware. > > So, would seem the trademark notice is optional. I'll be OK with or without > the Trademark attribution in the NOTICE files. There is not yet a policy > regarding this. So, once the unnecessary information is removed from the > NOTICE file in RC3 and NOTICE files are consistent, I should be ok... >
Removed using BVAL-67 and r950324. > Did I mention this already? The root NOTICE file contains: > > "The following copyright notice(s) were affixed to portions of this code > with which this file is now or was at one time distributed. > > This product includes software developed by agimatec GmbH. > Copyright 2007-2010 Agimatec GmbH. All rights reserved." > > Yet the jar NOTICE files do not. Would seem they should be consistent (one > way or the other). > Just double-checked the latest trunk build and the NOTICE files are in the jars and contain the Agimatec notice.... > --kevan
