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> On Apr 3, 2017, at 9:07 AM, Jeffery MacMillian via BVARC <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> WOW 18 email mails all about TRASH :) I find that to be very ironic, with a 
> wee bit of entertainment value. The longest topic of discussion on the 
> reflector, all about what NOT to post. All spurred by an Aprils Fools joke. 
> 
> The passion we have to make sure other people conform to our idea of what an 
> Email should or shouldn't be is amazing. 
> 
> The joke, well played! I usually just gaze a these email, but this one was a 
> Gem. 
> 
> I would offer my thoughts on what should or should not be posted, but that 
> would my version of the world (even though it's still in Beta) . I would 
> suggest more pictures though. This black and white threads is more like 
> reading an old news paper. 
> 
> 
> "Informed decision-making comes from a long tradition of guessing and then 
> blaming others for inadequate results." - Scott Adams
> 
> Have Fun,
> Jeff
> KG5LRP
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>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 6:36 AM, K5HM via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Right on
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Ron, K5HM
>> 
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> www.qrz.com/db/k5hm
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>> 
>>         Excelsior!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: BVARC [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JP Pritchard via 
>> BVARC
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 5:59 PM
>> To: 'BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB' <[email protected]>
>> Cc: JP Pritchard <[email protected]>; 'Jonathan Guthrie' 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Trash on our Amateur Radio reflector
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I enjoy BVARC (the club and the reflector) for more than one reason.  Like 
>> Mr. Rodriguez, I look to the club for Elmers, and I have found many who are 
>> willing to help.  All I had to do was ask. On the other hand, I find the 
>> fellowship of the group to be very important in my life.  I learned a very 
>> long time ago that I need social connections with like-minded individuals, 
>> and I have turned to BVARC to meet this need at this time in my life.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Every time a member posts something, whether it’s focused on amateur radio 
>> or something else, I learn something about a friend and sometimes I learn 
>> something new about one topic or another. So no, I am not offended and my 
>> day isn’t ruined if I encounter something off topic on the reflector. (And I 
>> am a person who receives more than a hundred emails a day, many of them off 
>> topic to anything and everything in my life.)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So, for what little my opinion is worth, I think Mr Jonathan Guthrie has 
>> replied to this discussion in a most creative and appropriate way.  I think 
>> he’s suggesting that we should all use good judgement in what we post, while 
>> at the same time we have the freedom, when the signal to noise ratio is all 
>> wrong,  to turn on the noise blanker and the noise DSP if you have one, and 
>> then either live with the noise that’s left or shut off the receiver (delete 
>> and move on).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> JP Pritchard,
>> 
>> KG3JPP
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: BVARC [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Guthrie 
>> via BVARC
>> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2017 2:56 PM
>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Jonathan Guthrie <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Trash on our Amateur Radio reflector
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Two things about the signal-to-noise ratio of an email list.
>> 
>> First, conversations about the topicality of off-topic messages (by which I 
>> mean discussions like this very one that we're engaging in right at this 
>> moment) tend to generate vast quantities of frankly off-topic noise, 
>> especially when compared to the off-topic messages that are under 
>> discussion.  Consider, for example, the number of "April Fools" messages to 
>> the number of messages talking about the "April Fools" messages.  There have 
>> been at least twice as many in the meta discussion than were posted in the 
>> first place.  These messages will also tend to be very contentious, which 
>> probably accounts for there being such a large number of them.
>> 
>> Second, a low signal-to-noise ratio in an email list is nearly always due to 
>> a low amount of signal in the list rather than to an excess of noise.  (The 
>> only exception I know of is on the SMOFs list, and that has to do with the 
>> characteristics of certain of the personalities on that list.  I can explain 
>> more, if you want me to, but it probably works better in a private 
>> conversation.)  So, the appropriate response to being unhappy with a low 
>> signal-to-noise ratio is to try to put more signal in the list rather than 
>> to put more noise on the list in an attempt to reduce the amount of noise on 
>> the list.  On-topic messages tend to foster more on-topic discussion.
>> 
>> One last point I'll make is that nobody concerned with a low signal-to-noise 
>> ratio finds comments like "you can always delete the messages you don't 
>> like" to be very helpful.  If the noise is high enough, it is easiest to 
>> simply withdraw.
>> 
>> On 04/02/2017 10:18 AM, John Chauvin via BVARC wrote:
>> 
>> Au contraire.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It is not that my, and hopefully anyone else's, whole day is consumed with 
>> the reflector.  Rather it is that many of us have a busy schedule and have 
>> to sort through this BS to get to our only desire for the reflector - 
>> amateur radio.  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> One exception, because of the nature of many amateur radio operators, an 
>> occasional "off topic" is required as a one-time question or similar, but 
>> not leading to a long e-mail trail.  I would hope that those that respond to 
>> these occasional requests do so directly and not respond to the entire 
>> reflector.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> IMHO (to quote a internationally acclaimed orator and noble statesman).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Rick Hiller -- W5RH via BVARC <[email protected]>
>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]> 
>> Cc: Rick Hiller -- W5RH <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 10:03 AM
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Trash on our Amateur Radio reflector
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Well now, let's see...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> No political comments -- then no discussion about HR555.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> No religious comments -- then no discussion about the propagation, sun 
>> spots, solar storms, because that is Mother Nature/God -- the ultimate OP, 
>> no matter what building you go into Friday, Saturday or Sunday.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> No humorous comments.....oh, no humor, sorry, I'll stop here then.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> C'mon folks, if your whole day is consumed by what comes across the BVARC 
>> reflector and you do not know what a delete key is, then you deserve to be 
>> miserable.  Even Dr. Feinman had a sense of humor. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 73 (sincerely) Rick -- W5RH
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> ps...keep complaiing and I will start the wood chuck thread 
>> again....Oh..,,sorry, no humor allowed.  My apologies.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Hiller 
>> 
>> The Radio Hotel  -- W5RH
>> 
>>  
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>>  
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>>  
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>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:59 AM, Pat Cameron via BVARC <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I vote for that! ( and the code requirement :-)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2017 8:56 AM, "K5HM" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not care for political or religious comments but if we ban humor, well, 
>> that is a step too far.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> There is precious little ham humor in our hobby.  We all seen to take 
>> ourselves too seriously.  Next thing you know, we will be bannibg the 
>> expressions of humor like words like  Ha Ha or Hee Hee Heee.
>> 
>> Come on  April 1st. OK?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Ron, K5HM
>> 
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> www.qrz.com/db/k5hm
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>         Excelsior!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: BVARC [mailto:[email protected] g] On Behalf Of Pat Cameron via 
>> BVARC
>> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 7:16 AM
>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Pat Cameron <[email protected]>; Michael Monsour <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] Trash on our Amateur Radio reflector
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Can we take a vote?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Pat Cameron
>> 
>> (832)885-2899
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 6:08 AM, K5IZO via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Michael, I agree.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Let's keep this reflector for ham radio so we don't have to receive this 
>> garbage. Political views, sinkholes and April Fools trash isn't welcome here.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2017, at 5:57 AM, Michael Monsour via BVARC <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> If you are going to do April 1st stuff then have the FCC turn ham radio into 
>> CB. No more calls and free for all and anything goes
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Jeff Davis via BVARC <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I enjoyed it, I’ve been hit with so many today that it was getting old.  
>> Then this one and man I swallowed it hook line and oh you know.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> it wasn’t till I went back to read it again and saw the date that I went, oh 
>> crap, I fell for one.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> KF5HQE Jeff
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 10:12 PM, gmuller885 via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just haveing fun michael. Don't take it so seriously.
>> 
>>  
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>>  
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>>  
>> 
>> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy® Note 4.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Michael Monsour via BVARC <[email protected]> 
>> Date: 4/1/17 9:42 PM (GMT-06:00) 
>> To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]> 
>> Cc: Michael Monsour <[email protected]>, JP Pritchard <[email protected]> 
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] FCC action!! 
>> 
>> Enough with the April 1st junk
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 9:03 PM, JP Pritchard via BVARC <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know this is crap since the federal government would never say in a press 
>> release that it had made a big mistake. Nice try Chris. You're an April fool.
>> 
>> JP
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Apr 1, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Chris Boone via BVARC <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > FCC to reinstate Morse Code test
>> >
>> > Washington, D.C. – April 1, 2017 –
>> >
>> > Today, the Federal Communications Commission (Commission or FCC) approved 
>> > Report and Order 14-987af which reinstates the Morse Code test for General 
>> > Class and Amateur Extra Class licensees.
>> >
>> > “It was a big mistake eliminating the Morse Code test,” admits Dotty 
>> > Dasher, the FCC’s director of examinations. “We now realize that being 
>> > able to send and receive Morse Code is an essential skill for radio 
>> > amateurs. As they say, it really does get through when other modes can’t.”
>> >
>> > Not only will new applicants have to take the test, but General Class 
>> > licensees who have never passed a code test will have one year to pass a 
>> > 5-wpm code test. Similarly, Amateur Extra class licensees that never 
>> > passed a code test will have one year to pass a 13-wpm test. Those 
>> > amateurs that fail to pass the test will face revocation of their 
>> > operating privileges. Materials for administering the examinations will be 
>> > distributed to Volunteer Examiner Coordinators by the end of April, so 
>> > that they can begin the testing on May 1, 2017.
>> >
>> > “This isn’t going to be one of those silly multiple-choice type tests,” 
>> > noted Dasher. “We’re going to be sending five-character random code 
>> > groups, just like we did in the old days. And, applicants will have to 
>> > prove that they can send, too, using a poorly adjusted straight key.”
>> >
>> > Technician Class licensees will not be required to take a Morse Code test, 
>> > nor will a test be required for new applicants. “We discussed it,” said 
>> > Dasher, “but decided that since most Techs can’t even figure out how to 
>> > program their HTs, requiring them to learn Morse Code seemed like cruel 
>> > and unusual punishment.”
>> >
>> > When asked what other actions we might see from the FCC, Dasher hinted 
>> > that in the future applicants taking the written exam may be required to 
>> > draw circuit diagrams, such as Colpitts oscillators and diode ring mixers, 
>> > once again. “We’re beginning to think that if an applicant passes an 
>> > amateur radio license exam it should mean that he or she actually knows 
>> > something,” she said.
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