Oh boy, noobs in a minefield.
The reality is that Amateur Radio has become largely an idle pursuit of comfortable geriatric men. I take no joy in noting that, I’m only acknowledging the situation. At 61, I’m no spring chicken myself. One thing about the geriatric that’s notable is our almost monumental resistance to change. There are plenty in this “hobby” who are always remembering “the good ol’ days.” I am among a minority who are unhappy that Amateur Radio has lost so much relevance with public service agencies. That was a major justification in getting Congressional authorization for what was meant to be a service. I am old enough to remember, as a SWL, the heydays of the ‘70s when certain HF frequencies were virtually aglow during disasters, and I don’t just mean “health and welfare” traffic. That was the epitome of relevancy to me, and I aspired to that level of service. I’m wistful that hams still aren’t doing things like spread-spectrum communications, which the military has had for decades. The crux of objections to new modes stems from worries that the sacred traditional modes would be hampered or interfered with. Personally, I have nothing against CW, but AM on HF is a waste of bandwidth (and for those curious, I feel much the same about “ESSB;” a properly-adjusted 3kc signal should provide sufficient fidelity). I don’t have a lot of interest in the “JT” modes as those are only useful in contests. FSQ might have a broader appeal, although I’ve yet to make a contact using it. I am on record in this mailing list as saying it’s only a question of time before the FCC is presented with a more profitable or “beneficial” use of our spectrum. At that point, we will be called upon to justify what we have, and the fact that there are 748k of us means diddly because we don’t vote en bloc on anything. From: BVARC [mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org] On Behalf Of DAVID M GRAY JR via BVARC Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 11:04 To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org> Cc: DAVID M GRAY JR <dmg...@mac.com> Subject: Re: [BVARC] [tdxs-list] FW: Let’s keep this "temporary" - beware of today's FCC Waiver - just announced YES….JT and the other tech wizzards have shown us how to sniff information out of mud 5-feet thick. I hope they come up with new and amazing ways to move rivers of bits really fast. David K5HEC On Oct 6, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Jeff Greer via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote: Noob question (I'm a new ham): Why do we not like the faster rates? From the outside looking in, it seems like more lax rules would benefit us. What am I missing? Jeff, W5JEF _____ From: BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> > on behalf of Paul Noll via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 8:01 AM To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB Cc: Paul Noll Subject: Re: [BVARC] [tdxs-list] FW: Let’s keep this "temporary" - beware of today's FCC Waiver - just announced There is no reason for concern now. FCC says temporary and I see no reason to think otherwise. If there is a problem after 60 days, let's deal with it then. Why worry over nothing now ?? Too many other things going on to worry about without adding more for no current reason. My 2 1/2 cents worth. Paul Noll KG5MHD Love your pets, they want and deserve it !!! On Oct 6, 2017, at 7:48 AM, n5xz via BVARC < <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: Still, hope it is only temporary Allen N5XZ -------- Original message -------- From: Michael Smith < <mailto:radion5...@gmail.com> radion5...@gmail.com> Date: 10/6/17 7:03 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Allen Brier N5XZ < <mailto:n...@earthlink.net> n...@earthlink.net> Cc: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB < <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> bvarc@bvarc.org>, tdxs-list < <mailto:tdxs-l...@tdxs.net> tdxs-l...@tdxs.net>, <mailto:n...@mailman.qth.net> n...@mailman.qth.net, <mailto:ctd...@kkn.net> ctd...@kkn.net, <mailto:qr...@mailman.qth.net> qr...@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [tdxs-list] FW: Let’s keep this "temporary" - beware of today's FCC Waiver - just announced As one of the hams deployed to PR, I am very happy to see the waiver. N5TGL/KP4, Michael On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Allen Brier N5XZ < <mailto:n...@earthlink.net> n...@earthlink.net> wrote: FYI de N5XZ: The appropriate thing to do is monitor and *document* the interference this activity will cause to other users/activity. ARRL will certainly argue to make the temporary order permanent based on a "lack of interference", etc. There must be countervailing evidence to prevent the "end run". ARRL, as a former administration, apparently believes that a crisis is an opportunity to advance unpopular policies. 73, ... Joe, W4TV From: Ted Rappaport N9NB [mailto:tsrwvc...@aol.com <mailto:tsrwvc...@aol.com> ] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 8:48 PM To: 'Jim Talens' <jtal...@verizon.net <mailto:jtal...@verizon.net> > Cc: ab...@htva.net <mailto:ab...@htva.net> ; 'Don Greenbaum' <d...@aurumtel.com <mailto:d...@aurumtel.com> >; 'Allen Brier N5XZ' <n...@earthlink.net <mailto:n...@earthlink.net> >; 'Sam Leslie - W4PK' <w...@arrl.net <mailto:w...@arrl.net> >; 'Jeff AC0C' <keepwalking...@ac0c.com <mailto:keepwalking...@ac0c.com> >; 'Ron Kolarik' <rkola...@neb.rr.com <mailto:rkola...@neb.rr.com> >; w...@aol.com <mailto:w...@aol.com> ; 'Dan White' <hdwh...@charter.net <mailto:hdwh...@charter.net> >; 'Richard Thorne' <rtho...@rthorne.net <mailto:rtho...@rthorne.net> >; 'Mark Sihlanick' <n2qt...@gmail.com <mailto:n2qt...@gmail.com> >; 'Joe Subich, W4TV' <w...@subich.com <mailto:w...@subich.com> >; awillar...@yahoo.com <mailto:awillar...@yahoo.com> ; 'Jim McDonald' <j...@n7us.net <mailto:j...@n7us.net> >; 'Tom Morrison' <k...@morrisons.us <mailto:k...@morrisons.us> >; 'Zoya Popovic' <z...@colorado.edu <mailto:z...@colorado.edu> >; 'Terry Gerdes Cell' <a...@hotmail.com <mailto:a...@hotmail.com> >; 'Ed Muns' <e...@w0yk.com <mailto:e...@w0yk.com> >; k...@swva.net <mailto:k...@swva.net> ; 'Dick Hanson K5AND' <d...@dkhanson.com <mailto:d...@dkhanson.com> >; 'Scott Yost' <nm8rme...@rocketmail.com <mailto:nm8rme...@rocketmail.com> >; 'Jim George' <n...@mindspring.com <mailto:n...@mindspring.com> >; 'Paul Stroud' <aa...@bellsouth.net <mailto:aa...@bellsouth.net> >; 'Dick Hanson K5AND' <d...@lazyh.me <mailto:d...@lazyh.me> >; k0...@k0acp.com <mailto:k0...@k0acp.com> Subject: Lets keep this "temporary" - beware of today's FCC Waiver - just announced We must do all we can to ensure this "temporary" order is only temporary- 60 days----and let's hope it does some actual good for those suffering in the Caribbean. Let us all beware of those at the league who have data ambitions that aim to push for FCC rules that would allow wideband encrypted modems like Pactor 3 and 4 to overtake today's narrowband modes. Please spread the word. And.........Beware. 73 ted N9NB ---------- >From ARRL Newsletter: FCC Grants Temporary Waiver to Permit Higher Symbol Rate Data Transmissions The FCC has granted an ARRL request to waive current Amateur Radio rules to permit data transmissions at a higher symbol rate than currently permitted, in order to facilitate hurricane relief communications between the continental US and Puerto Rico. The temporary waiver is limited to Amateur Radio operators in Puerto Rico using PACTOR 3 and PACTOR 4 emissions, and to those radio amateurs in the continental US who are directly involved with HF hurricane relief communications involving Puerto Rico or the US Virgin Islands, the Commission said. "We conclude that granting the requested waiver is in the public interest," the FCC said in its October 5 Order. "Hurricane Maria caused massive destruction in Puerto Rico, and communication services continue to be disrupted. Thus, to accommodate Amateur Radio operators assisting in the recovery efforts, we grant the ARRL's waiver request for the period of 60 days from the date of this Order." ARRL explained in its waiver petition that it's shipping five PACTOR radio modems to Puerto Rico for use in connection with Hurricane Maria disaster relief communications. The League asked the FCC to temporarily allow PACTOR 3 and PACTOR 4 transmissions that exceed the current symbol rate limitations under § 97.307(f) of the Amateur Service rules. Under the current rules, "specified digital codes" in Part 97 may be used with a symbol rate that does not exceed 300 baud for frequencies below 28 MHz, with the exception of 60 meters, and 1200 baud in the 10 meter band. The baud rate limits were adopted in 1980, when the FCC amended Part 97 to specify ASCII as a permissible digital code. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: <https://lists.tdxs.net/mailman/options/tdxs-list/radion5tgl%40gmail.com> https://lists.tdxs.net/mailman/options/tdxs-list/radion5tgl%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BVARC mailing list <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> BVARC@bvarc.org <http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Message delivered to <mailto:pbn...@gmail.com> pbn...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ BVARC mailing list <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> BVARC@bvarc.org <http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Message delivered to <mailto:dmg...@mac.com> dmg...@mac.com
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