Equal parts I might go for.
However, have you ever heard a real spread-spectrum signal? No, and you won’t because they lurk in the background noise. Military does this frequently on 80m, and you almost need a SDR to spot the noise floor going up ever so slightly. From: BVARC [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of K5IZO via BVARC Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 14:13 To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]> Cc: K5IZO <[email protected]>; Bill Dillon <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BVARC] [tdxs-list] FW: Let’s keep this "temporary" - beware of today's FCC Waiver - just announced Furthermore, this was extensively addressed when ARRL proposed it less than a year ago. Even hard core narrow bandwidth people don’t want to stifle technology, so the counter proposal was to give wideband part of the SSB sections or equal amounts from upper CW/Data and SSB. Of course ARRL, the people who brought you the disastrous Parity Act would have nothing to do with this. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Bill Dillon via BVARC <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Faster rates means wider transmission bandwidths, which means less room for others on our HF bands. 73 de Bill, KG5FQX On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Jeff Greer via BVARC <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Noob question (I'm a new ham): Why do we not like the faster rates? From the outside looking in, it seems like more lax rules would benefit us. What am I missing? Jeff, W5JEF _____ From: BVARC <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf of Paul Noll via BVARC <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 8:01 AM To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB Cc: Paul Noll Subject: Re: [BVARC] [tdxs-list] FW: Let’s keep this "temporary" - beware of today's FCC Waiver - just announced There is no reason for concern now. FCC says temporary and I see no reason to think otherwise. If there is a problem after 60 days, let's deal with it then. Why worry over nothing now ?? Too many other things going on to worry about without adding more for no current reason. My 2 1/2 cents worth. Paul Noll KG5MHD Love your pets, they want and deserve it !!! On Oct 6, 2017, at 7:48 AM, n5xz via BVARC <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Still, hope it is only temporary Allen N5XZ -------- Original message -------- From: Michael Smith <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Date: 10/6/17 7:03 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Allen Brier N5XZ <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >, tdxs-list <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> , [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> , [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [tdxs-list] FW: Let’s keep this "temporary" - beware of today's FCC Waiver - just announced As one of the hams deployed to PR, I am very happy to see the waiver. N5TGL/KP4, Michael On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 11:50 PM, Allen Brier N5XZ <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: FYI de N5XZ: The appropriate thing to do is monitor and *document* the interference this activity will cause to other users/activity. ARRL will certainly argue to make the temporary order permanent based on a "lack of interference", etc. There must be countervailing evidence to prevent the "end run". ARRL, as a former administration, apparently believes that a crisis is an opportunity to advance unpopular policies. 73, ... Joe, W4TV From: Ted Rappaport N9NB [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 8:48 PM To: 'Jim Talens' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; 'Don Greenbaum' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Allen Brier N5XZ' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Sam Leslie - W4PK' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Jeff AC0C' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Ron Kolarik' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; 'Dan White' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Richard Thorne' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Mark Sihlanick' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Joe Subich, W4TV' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; 'Jim McDonald' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Tom Morrison' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Zoya Popovic' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Terry Gerdes Cell' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Ed Muns' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; 'Dick Hanson K5AND' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Scott Yost' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Jim George' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Paul Stroud' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; 'Dick Hanson K5AND' <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Lets keep this "temporary" - beware of today's FCC Waiver - just announced We must do all we can to ensure this "temporary" order is only temporary- 60 days----and let's hope it does some actual good for those suffering in the Caribbean. Let us all beware of those at the league who have data ambitions that aim to push for FCC rules that would allow wideband encrypted modems like Pactor 3 and 4 to overtake today's narrowband modes. Please spread the word. And.........Beware. 73 ted N9NB ---------- >From ARRL Newsletter: FCC Grants Temporary Waiver to Permit Higher Symbol Rate Data Transmissions The FCC has granted an ARRL request to waive current Amateur Radio rules to permit data transmissions at a higher symbol rate than currently permitted, in order to facilitate hurricane relief communications between the continental US and Puerto Rico. The temporary waiver is limited to Amateur Radio operators in Puerto Rico using PACTOR 3 and PACTOR 4 emissions, and to those radio amateurs in the continental US who are directly involved with HF hurricane relief communications involving Puerto Rico or the US Virgin Islands, the Commission said. "We conclude that granting the requested waiver is in the public interest," the FCC said in its October 5 Order. "Hurricane Maria caused massive destruction in Puerto Rico, and communication services continue to be disrupted. Thus, to accommodate Amateur Radio operators assisting in the recovery efforts, we grant the ARRL's waiver request for the period of 60 days from the date of this Order." ARRL explained in its waiver petition that it's shipping five PACTOR radio modems to Puerto Rico for use in connection with Hurricane Maria disaster relief communications. The League asked the FCC to temporarily allow PACTOR 3 and PACTOR 4 transmissions that exceed the current symbol rate limitations under § 97.307(f) of the Amateur Service rules. Under the current rules, "specified digital codes" in Part 97 may be used with a symbol rate that does not exceed 300 baud for frequencies below 28 MHz, with the exception of 60 meters, and 1200 baud in the 10 meter band. The baud rate limits were adopted in 1980, when the FCC amended Part 97 to specify ASCII as a permissible digital code. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.tdxs.net/mailman/options/tdxs-list/radion5tgl%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ BVARC mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Message delivered to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> _______________________________________________ BVARC mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Message delivered to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> _______________________________________________ BVARC mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://mail..bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org <http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org> Message delivered to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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