Rick:

   I really agree especially since I've looked into the drone motor controllers.
They typically emit so much onboard and radiated hash that special by-pass
precautions are taken with some of the onboard sensors, e.g. accelerometers
for orientation sensing.  I disagree that modelling software is adequate for
the typical antenna environment, e.g. antennas below a wavelength.  Also
conformation of directional antenna's front-to-back and forward gain for
optimization purposes would be nice if even perhaps extravagant.

73, Gary K5AMH

PS: Most drone controllers use the STM ARM processors for which there
is free open source drone software: https://betaflight.com/


On 3/10/2021 2:34 PM, Rick Hiller via BVARC wrote:
Comment:  Is an FSD applicable?

Although an FSD would provide a close-in Far Field pattern of an antenna antenna installation, which is very cool indeed.  Is it really necessary in the world of Ham Radio?

We already have antenna modeling software based on the NEC which is quite accurate, depending on the set up parameters provided, of course.   That model analysis provides us with a pattern and a fair amount of operational information.

But what do we (I) really want?  I want to know what and how my antenna is performing in the real world outside of my QTH.   Is it getting to Europe or VK?   When is the best time and frequency to get to Japan or South Africa?   Questions like this are not to be answered by a FSD.

What we really need is a world wide system to detect our signals wherever they may occur.  So let's start thinking of that.  We just need a few hams on every continent to participate........Wait!  Not so fast.......there is already a system that does this.  WSPR   and it is available from a local amateur radio dealer -- SOTA Beams *_https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/wsprlite-classic <https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/wsprlite-classic>. _*    QST Dec 2018 even has a review of this system. *_https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/content/QSTREVIEW.pdf <https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/content/QSTREVIEW.pdf> _*

Now look, I am not poo pooing the FSD concept , ideas, discussion, etc.   Very cool indeed to get a group of folks excited and discussing antenna stuff.   Woo Hoo!  I'm all for it, being the antenna phreak that I am.   I'm just taking a step back and seeing if it is necessary, practical or even applicable for Hams.   Plus, maybe some don't know about WSPR.

73...Rick -- W5RH


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On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 1:57 PM Jeffery MacMillian via BVARC <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Here is a good paper on this very topic.....

    
https://www.narda-sts.com/en/selective-emf/srm-3006-field-strength-analyzer/eID/pd/pdce/9063/pdfr/9500/
    
<https://www.narda-sts.com/en/selective-emf/srm-3006-field-strength-analyzer/eID/pd/pdce/9063/pdfr/9500/>

    have Fun,
    Jeff
    KC5TT




    On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 1:31 PM Tom Watson via BVARC
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Brilliant!

        On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 12:22 AM Mark Brantana via BVARC
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            OK, what is an FSD? It is a Field Strength Drone. It’s an
            idea I am sure others have had, and I don’t expect to get
            around to designing or patenting such a thing. But
            inventions are often just the merging of new technologies,
            and this is not much different. I don’t see any YouTubes
            about this or any other reference, so here’s the idea:

            With all the capabilities of little drones I wonder if
            anyone has designed one which can carry a field strength
            meter and fly a grid around an antenna to evaluate antenna
            performance. The guts of my little Radio Shack FSM would
            have weighed way less than an ounce.

            Ideally, the field strength meter could communicate to the
            base through the drone transmitter, reducing weight.
            Software at the base could link the drone 3D location data
            with the FS reading. The drone would have to wait at test
            locations for the operator to transmit, and ideally would
            move to the next location. Finally, the software might be
            able to link with existing simulation software for
            comparison with theory and allow for simulation model
            improvement. This looks like it would take a small team to
            develop.

            This sounds like it would have many uses besides antenna
            evaluation, like RFI evaluation.

            What about it? Has anyone done this?

            Mark
            N5PRD
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