A few weeks ago I started using FT8 with my IC-7300 and had no idea if my 
rooftop diamond shaped off-center dipole was even working.  Well I was 
introduced quickly to https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html and that webpage 
lets you look at all bands and many different modes including WSPR. I saw my 
signal being seen in Japan to Chile to northern Canada and over to Spain that 
first time, so figured I was doing OK!  I think it was 20m as it was daytime, 
later in afternoon.  If you have a radio that you can connect to like an 
IC-7300 you can use program like WSJTX and use if for several different modes 
including FT8 and WSPR. This is very popular program as I have come to learn.  
Then go look at where is signal is using something like psk reporter. It is 
very revealing and fun. 

 

I did get some help and my antenna was modeled on EZNEC and it a bit of a cloud 
warmer at 80m but is not horrible overall. Considering the situation I am 
limited to, things could be a lot worse. 

 

 

Chris Luppens

 

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To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <[email protected]>
Cc: Mark Brantana <[email protected]>; Rick Hiller <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BVARC] Building an FSD

 

I don’t know anything about WSPR. I need to study about it. 

 

I am a little bit inspired by discussions on this forum a few weeks ago. There 
seem to be a lot of unknowns making it harder for hams to get an accurate 
pattern. We are seldom able to get the antenna as high as we should, or where. 
Plus, we bend them in knarly ways. How good are these simulations given these 
challenges?

Mark 


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On Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 2:34 PM, Rick Hiller via BVARC <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Comment:  Is an FSD applicable?

 

Although an FSD would provide a close-in Far Field pattern of an antenna 
antenna installation, which is very cool indeed.  Is it really necessary in the 
world of Ham Radio?

 

We already have antenna modeling software based on the NEC which is quite 
accurate, depending on the set up parameters provided, of course.   That model 
analysis provides us with a pattern and a fair amount of operational 
information.

 

But what do we (I) really want?  I want to know what and how my antenna is 
performing in the real world outside of my QTH.   Is it getting to Europe or 
VK?   When is the best time and frequency to get to Japan or South Africa?   
Questions like this are not to be answered by a FSD.

 

What we really need is a world wide system to detect our signals wherever they 
may occur.  So let's start thinking of that.  We just need a few hams on every 
continent to participate........Wait!  Not so fast.......there is already a 
system that does this.  WSPR   and it is available from a local amateur radio 
dealer -- SOTA Beams  https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/wsprlite-classic.     QST Dec 
2018 even has a review of this system. 

https://www.sotabeams.co.uk/content/QSTREVIEW.pdf 

 

Now look, I am not poo pooing the FSD concept , ideas, discussion, etc.   Very 
cool indeed to get a group of folks excited and discussing antenna stuff.   Woo 
Hoo!  I'm all for it, being the antenna phreak that I am.   I'm just taking a 
step back and seeing if it is necessary, practical or even applicable for Hams. 
  Plus, maybe some don't know about WSPR.  

 

73...Rick -- W5RH

 

   

 


 
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 1:57 PM Jeffery MacMillian via BVARC <[email protected] 
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Here is a good paper on this very topic.....

 

https://www.narda-sts.com/en/selective-emf/srm-3006-field-strength-analyzer/eID/pd/pdce/9063/pdfr/9500/

 

have Fun,

Jeff

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On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 1:31 PM Tom Watson via BVARC <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Brilliant!  

 

On Wed, Mar 10, 2021, 12:22 AM Mark Brantana via BVARC <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

OK, what is an FSD? It is a Field Strength Drone. It’s an idea I am sure others 
have had, and I don’t expect to get around to designing or patenting such a 
thing. But inventions are often just the merging of new technologies, and this 
is not much different. I don’t see any YouTubes about this or any other 
reference, so here’s the idea:

With all the capabilities of little drones I wonder if anyone has designed one 
which can carry a field strength meter and fly a grid around an antenna to 
evaluate antenna performance. The guts of my little Radio Shack FSM would have 
weighed way less than an ounce.

Ideally, the field strength meter could communicate to the base through the 
drone transmitter, reducing weight. Software at the base could link the drone 
3D location data with the FS reading. The drone would have to wait at test 
locations for the operator to transmit, and ideally would move to the next 
location. Finally, the software might be able to link with existing simulation 
software for comparison with theory and allow for simulation model improvement. 
This looks like it would take a small team to develop.

This sounds like it would have many uses besides antenna evaluation, like RFI 
evaluation.

What about it? Has anyone done this?

Mark
N5PRD
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